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mike peterman's avatar

And the absolute worst part of trying to fix the system, is that both Repubs and Dems are highly rewarded by the pharma companies. The hit pieces will keep coming and coming.

Susan G's avatar

God, I started screaming at the TV yesterday when FOX was interviewing a GOP congressman who is a physician. While mostly supportive of Kennedy, he hedged his bets a bit, referring to "discussions with other physicians" when disagreeing with RFK Jr. Until, he said the unbelievable - that pregnant women should absolutely receive the vaccine and/or boosters. Because..... obstetricians said it is critically important.

RFK MUST focus on covid vaccine transparency- he must break the pharma medical government industrial complex so as to begin to remake Healthcare and Make America Healthy Again.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

What an idiotic thing to say- I would have been yelling at the TV too. RFK, Jr did a great job yesterday and he’s done fantastic work so far to improve this mess. Just like he said yesterday that he didn’t create these problems.

mike peterman's avatar

It is quite maddening. Alex has provided us with so much data from across the world to prove how ineffective the shots were and will always be. But doesn't seem to matter.

Susan G's avatar

They cannot and will not admit they lied.

ActualData's avatar

Can't wait for the data dump. And slowly over time, the truth HAS to become evident. We have to be as open to truth as they do. Maybe they are not as bad as many rfk supporters think.

Danno's avatar

Controlling what information we can see has been the subject of a major effort by the elites. They truly believe that they CAN hide the truth indefinitely. Prior to the rise of the internet, they pretty much did.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

RFK is such a quack he actually questioned the science of masking babies!

This is easy guys, the whole point of our healthcare system is to turn childhood into a disease.

If you create an ecosystem of disease in childhood you have a recurring revenue stream for life, on "auto renew".

In business they call that the "sticky" model.

AG Fairfield's avatar

While also “pathologizing” the aging process - it’s a Win/Win for them

Heyjude's avatar

They hate RFK Jr because the last thing a multi-trillion dollar industry that relies on health problems to make that money wants is to Make America Healthy Again.

It's True's avatar

One thing that Alex forgets to say is that for all intents and purposes, the United States subsidize the world's drug and research development just like we subsidize the world's defense spending. That doesn't explain everything, however shifting the costs to us from everyone else exacerbates the difference between the two.

Isabelle Williams's avatar

We also subsidize everybody's pharmaceuticals. Other countries with some sort of single payer systems negotiate drug prices with the big pharma companies. So the same drug usually costs half as much to insurers, government or individuals in Europe as it does in USA. This is just because the American healthcare system is too dumb and too corrupt and because big pharma has no loyalty. But its bankrupting our country.

Les's avatar

Yes, I read that Wegovy and those other medicines now being used to treat obesity were very inexpensive in other countries, e.g., France the dosage was under $200/month, and in Japan even much cheaper.

Danno's avatar

In Canada (a single-payer system) people are forced to pay for pharmaceuticals with their own money. While such a system does not fit the socialist ideal that most in the US think it does, that at least insures that big pharma can't charge exorbitant prices if they want to sell their product. In the US, by contrast, consumers don't even need to pay attention to what these things actually cost, thanks to government subsidized insurance (the odd public-private system forced on us by the Affordable Care Act), which, as you point out, is an invitation to all kinds of corruption and fraud.

Btw, why would countries with single-payer systems even HAVE insurers?

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

This is a piece to the puzzle and it’s being worked on. I don’t think we’ll see a large pricing decrease, but will see a small one for pharmaceuticals however because it’s business and their goal is to make money. I predict prices will increase in Europe, quite a bit, to make up some of the difference but that’s not enough to offset what they would have made off US people since I think US people purchase 70% of the pharmaceuticals? Please correct me if I’m mistaken. So that Trump et al. cannot say we pay more, they’ll level the field on the backs of the EU and GB with large increases while we see small, very small decreases. I hope I’m wrong but they’re not going to go for a pay cut. They also have stockholders to appease, remember…

carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

i had this fear too. when Trump said he wanted the US to pay what the lowest price country was paying, i thought "well, they'll just raise their prices everywhere!"

Danno's avatar

They can't because none of the other countries can afford it.

carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

they can't afford to ramp up their defenses for a made up war with russia either but that hasn't stopped their incompetent EU leaders from trying. i hope you are right but i have my doubts.

Brogan12's avatar

Until that is addressed why would things change!

Mimi's avatar

I don't think it matters whether RFK Jr. blows his powder on vaccines or whatever - he's a major threat to the status quo, so he's going to be demonized no matter what. I'm just glad he's both very smart and very brave, because most people wouldn't be able to tolerate this level of vitriol.

Joe Wannemacher's avatar

Accurate and we'll said... unfortunately...

RColeman's avatar

My daughter just started working in a doctors office as a receptionist. EVERY SINGLE DAY, pharma and device reps compete to bring in lavishes lunches for the entire office of 30, just in exchange for 10 minutes to push wares on the doctors. (There is actually a sign up sheet for lunches that one of her coworkers has the duty to manage, and it's filled for months out) There is a hell of a lot of money spent just on the pharma/device sales apparatus, and this is just one tiny splinter of the whole ecosystem.

How many pharma/device reps do you know? And they make a very good living!! (Again, it's just another window into the problem with waste and corruption in the health industry.

Eva Sylwester's avatar

Can confirm — I used to manage a similar sign-up sheet as a medical office admin pre-COVID, although we typically didn't do lunches more than once a week. I have to admit I didn't think much about the money/corruption angle of it at the time. The healthcare industry is a stressful place for many reasons, and the drug reps coming in and bringing us food or coffee were usually at least a cheerful presence.

Jeff Schreiber's avatar

“The healthcare industry is a stressful place for many reasons, and the drug reps coming in and bringing us food or coffee were usually at least a cheerful presence.”

That’s how they roll. Play the good guys who help everybody get through their very stressed out life.

I used to have a business in the college textbook industry. I would bring in lunches for entire academic offices all the time. They loved me and many became loyal customers.

RColeman's avatar

I would propose that the "textbook" industry is equally corrupt. Why do school systems spend as much as millions of dollars per year buying new "programs" to teach kids all over again every year? Books from the 1980s for math and English were just as effective.

Answer, because the administrators have no interest in watching how much they spend on educating the kids. Instead, it's about how much power they can yield in their fiefdoms.

Jeff Schreiber's avatar

Having in inside view of the industry for over 30 years, I can verify that is completely corrupt. Not only are they squeezing as much $$ as possible from naive students, but the information in these overpriced textbooks is designed to keep them ignorant (at least in some areas).

Southern Kristin's avatar

Totally agree with you both, as I sold college textbooks for a large publisher for years. Another reason departments frequently adopted new editions of textbooks (forcing students to buy the new rather than used version) was the instructor-side supplementation. With all the class prep, pre-made tests, and other bells and whistles, most of them hardly had to do a thing to teach the class. Win-win, right?

Jeff Schreiber's avatar

The bottom line as you are well aware was and is to keep the gravy train running. The most common thing professors told me as time went on was how poorly their students were able to learn. I think you could learn a lot about our society from looking at this and determining what the main culprits could be.

Southern Kristin I’d love to have a conversation with you sometime about this. It’s been around 6-7 years since I retired - and in that time with the pandemic and all the rabbit holes and road blocks I’ve run into, it feels like I’ve learned more than I did in all the decades prior.

You can contact me if you like at JeffSchreiber99@gmail.com

Momo's avatar

They use attractive female reps for the male doctors and handsome male reps for the female doctors and staff.

Eva Sylwester's avatar

The office where I worked had only male doctors, and we got both male and female sales reps. One of the medical assistants (female) actually had a serious romantic relationship with one of the reps (male) for a while, though.

Diana (Somewhere in Maryland)'s avatar

The media blackout over Sen. Ron Johnson holding up a VAERS report at the hearing stating 30,000 world wide died the day of or within two days of getting a Covid shot is mind blowing. I can not believe no news organization so much as mentioned it. Then again....

I hope RFK has the strength to hang in there. If he's angering them, it must be for good reason.

Brogan12's avatar

That was one MASSIVE intentional CENSORING for sure. Johnson has been ONE in the swamp who truly has my respect!

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Same! Ron Johnson has championed this cause since day one.

Deborah Cooper's avatar

The best thing we could do for RFK jr is to cover him with prayers for wisdom and wisdom for those truly seeking the best info and care for the people. If you pray please consider this!

Stephen Korn, MD's avatar

John Leake from the McCoullough Foundation has reported @ 50K deaths within 2 weeks of the jab.

Reality Seeker's avatar

Pharma ads pay the bills of the media. Media can't bite the hand that feeds them.

I wonder if the ads are there are actually to find new customers or to keep the media complicit in deceiving the public.

Anthony J . Barton's avatar

I believe that if America gets all illegal foreign nationals and illegal aliens out of America it will help the health of our people and our country. These people take hospital beds meant for Americans. Foreign nationals and illegal aliens bring in diseases to our people that nobody talks about. They bring in illegal drugs that poison our American people and no one talks about that. Getting 40 million foreign nationals and illegal aliens off public assistance will save us American people a lot of money. We are not running a motel for illegal aliens.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Excellent point. This should be a huge cost savings to get them off Medicaid, SNAP, Medicare.

LEA7's avatar

Plus, we cannot refuse to provide care in America, so even if illegals are using the system, the staff is stretched further and affiliated medical professionals are not compensated well (specialty paramedics, trauma, flight nurses, etc.).

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

True. Another argument in favor of mass deportation. If they arrive in the ER, they must be treated.

Leland Kendall's avatar

Some democrat judge will probably use that as an excuse for why they can’t be deported.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Maybe so. They seem to grasp at anything.

Mtu_wa_kweli's avatar

Correct

Remittance data, percentage of Spanish only calls to 988 suicide hotline, differences between Mexico growth rate and census numbers, percentage of foreigners on Medicare indicate that there are 30-34 million illegal aliens in the US

Pew's numbers are bogus. I've shared this data with them - they refuse to change their

estimate - which is based upon self reported nationality status in Census forms (?)

Anthony J . Barton's avatar

You are correct that in the past 30 years in Massachusetts since Obama this all has gotten worse. I understand what you're saying. AJB

AG Fairfield's avatar

This is such a great example of why AI is going to spread so much bad info

Moralimp's avatar

This is a fight worth having. As an older American in good health, I can't get insurance to pay for chiropractic or other healthy ways I pay for, to keep my body in the best shape possible. I was shocked to find out being retired was going to cost me twice as much for insurance, insurance I rarely use, because the way I keep healthy is not by having operations or taking medications. I'm very glad Kennedy is fighting the good fight. I don't know what it's going to take to get our country back on track medically (were we ever) but I see him talking a new talk, getting rid of people who are part of the problem, and of course the mainstream media is going after him, there are too many corporations who bribe them. I stand behind his stance of making American healthier than it's been in a long time.

Adrian Gaty's avatar

Much more on the “overprescription”

of stimulants here:

https://jotpurple.substack.com/p/31-august-2025

“The most damning statistic: boys are more than twice as likely as girls to be diagnosed with ADHD. Doctors have made boyhood into a disease.

Similarly, the youngest children in any given classroom are far more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD than their older classmates; relative immaturity is now a psychiatric condition. If your kid was born in August and pees standing up, go ahead and start stockpiling amphetamines now.“

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Exactly. My sister teaches kindergarten and has for close to 35 years. She’s definitely seen a rise in kids with ADHD and on the autism spectrum. And yes, they’re typically boys. Once in a while there’s a girl in the mix. Maturity and parenting skills or lack thereof play a huge role. The new “ gentle parenting “, basically an excuse for parents not to discipline their kids, creates a situation where the animals are running the zoo, so to speak, but not in her classroom. Diet, toxic exposure, screens vs playing outside all play a role as well. My sister gives out books about food as medicine to help symptoms of ADHD, and talks about nutrition and its role in, but sometimes the parents aren’t ready to listen or are too overwhelmed or want a “quick fix” that a drug appears to provide. Once in a while someone is interested in reading the book and implementing the suggestions. It’s very sad.

carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

boys need to run around. girls do better in school because they can comfortably sit for hours reading or whatever. a yoga instructor once told me that the historic purpose of yoga was to tire out the male students so that they were ready to sit still in class and learn. how much better is that than drugs?

and i love all the (mostly) women screaming at RFKjr because he suggested that shootings might have more to do with drugs than with guns. he is 100% correct but the people who want to overturn the 2nd amendment can't allow that

Ryan Gardner's avatar

OMG. I sorta posted something similar.

Sorry. Should've read the comments first.

Anyways, your spot on, Adrian.

carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

i'm constantly amazed by people's blind spots, in this case Alex's.

you, of all people, should know what it's like to be censored by a vast machine with unlimited tax payer dollars, coming to destroy you because you threaten it's money supply. do you really believe that suddenly vaccine makers became exemplars of charitable behavior? can you seriously believe that, unlike with covid, where their data was falsified and then they tried to hide it for 75 years, with childhood vaccines, they somehow got religion?

you said "Most kids who get measles won’t die from it, but if we can protect them, we might as well." since thousands of parents blame the MMR shot for their children's autism, i don't understand how you can make that statement.

what about Chesterton's Fence? is it possible that measles has some benefit that our earthly scientists just haven't figured out yet and by preventing kids from acquiring it naturally, we have stupidly circumvented Nature's design?

i'm going to tell you a story. some years back, a man named Tim Young and his wife decided to sell their business and become organic farmers. they bought some land in Athens, GA, put up a house, got animals and went at it, using the principles of Joel Salatin at Polyface.

one day the wife noticed that one chicken was wheezing and coughing. within hours that chicken had died and others were showing symptoms. they called the vet.

he diagnosed Newcastle Virus and told them to cull their entire flock, get new chickens and call him over to vaccinate them all. we're talking about 1000 chickens here- no small task.

the Youngs talked it over and decided that the vet's advice flew in the face of Nature's logic. they decided to ride out the infection.

so what happened? 1/3 of the chickens died but 1/3 of the chickens got sick and recovered (acquired immunity) and the other third never had any symptoms at all (innate immunity). so they got to keep 2/3 of their chickens and every chicken on their farm since then is a descendant of those immune chickens. they never had a problem with Newcastle Virus again.

Farmer Tim writes about this incident in his book, The Accidental Farmers.

these people were not immunologists or virologists but they understood real "herd immunity" better than the vet who was obviously educated in a pharma funded college where they teach that herd immunity is a function of vaccine coverage.

we visited the farm some years ago to take a class in cheese making. by then Tim learned that he had a "gift" for cheesemaking and was winning awards and supplying restaurants in the Athens area.

but when i read the book, i got interested in Newcastle Virus and researched it. turns out, it manifests in humans as a mild case of pink eye but it's thought to be protective against cancer and at that time MSKCC was researching it. of course that research would never be allowed to see the light of day!

the point is when you say "measles, who needs it? if we can prevent it, we may as well" you may just be inadvertently contributing to the increase in cancer! maybe getting measles hardens children against other things. i've read that some researchers suspect that a natural measles infection may be protective.

this is kind of like people who think mosquitoes are just a pest and seek to rid the world of them but they're part of the food chain and when the mosquitoes go, eventually we go. bats eat them, hummingbirds eat them, chickens eat them. Heather Heying on the Darkhorse podcast read some research one week that showed some surprising data from rural communities. when the bat population went down, human infant mortality went up. huh? babies have nothing to do with bats, right? except that farmers had to use more pesticides where the bat population declined and that adversely affected the newborns. welcome to complex systems.

certainly in the UK, they discourage the varicella vaccine because they know that not having a natural chicken pox infection as a child opens you up to shingles in later years. so is getting rid of these childhood infections "because we can" a good thing? i'm dubious.

then you said "instead of spending all his political capital on a fight over vaccines he cannot win." RFKjr was put on this earth to win this fight. he needs to do 2 things- take pharma commercials off television which will sink network news but also allow people to speak freely about vaccine injuries. ask Sharyl Attkisson what happened to her when she looked into vaccines. ask RFKjr. how will we ever figure out what is causing autism (my money's on vaccines) if we can't ever talk about one big elephant in the room?

these things have liability protection so there's no incentive for vaccine makers to do better and they have a captured forced market! if you couldn't sue your car manufacturer for faulty brakes, every car in the world would have faulty brakes.

the 1986 act needs to be over turned. let the market decide.

i'm older than you. i had 3 vaccines. now children get what- 90+ shots and yet we can't talk about the wisdom (or lack) of doing that? NONE of them have ever been studied against placebo or compared to a completely unvaccinated population. the Hep B shot was studied for 4 days! why do babies get HepB shots? because Merck wasn't making enough money selling them to an unreliable market- drug users and sex workers- and threatened to stop making them unless the government could guarantee them a steady market and voila- all children are subjected to this even though mothers are tested prior to giving birth. this way the hospital can bill for the test, which is disregarded, AND for the shot which is criminal. and yet you have idiots like Senator Cassidy who insists on it, only to be schooled by Senator Paul. but god forbid some curious person should speculate that our dismal infant mortality rate might have something to do with our fetish to shoot up babies with HepB and vitamin K the minute they're out of the womb and you'll be a pariah.

why did the 1986 act get passed? because vaccine makers were having the shit sued out of them for all the damaged children. they went to the government crying and the government gave them immunity. so much for the free market.

when a plane crashes, we investigate it but when autism goes up from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 31 IN MY LIFETIME, we shrug and say "we're just better at diagnosing it" as if parents wouldn't notice that something was terribly wrong with their child without an "expert" to name it for them!

in 1976 i witnessed my cousin's wife spend a year in a wheelchair with what i now know was GBS after taking the swine flu vaccine. that did it for me. if a single vaccine can do that to an adult, what do combination shots do to small children? we aren't allowed to ask. but back then 60 Minutes could devote a segment to the swine flu scandal, something that couldn't happen now that pharma pays 75% of television's budgets.

in the early 70's i was a psych major in college. the "settled science" of the day was that autism was caused by a cold rejecting mother (schizophrenogenic mother/ refrigerator mother). it was thought to be a psychiatric condition and all the physical symptoms were ignored because they didn't fit the "narrative"- sound familiar? no other theories were allowed. any therapist who disagreed had no chance at a grant or a job. doctors were terrible to these poor women.

that theory eventually fell away, but not before doing great harm, and was replaced by what- we have no theory other than IT"S NOT THE VACCINES. it can't be because we won't allow it, won't consider it even though it is THE ONE THING WE GIVE TO CHILDREN EN MASSE TO ALTER THEIR IMMUNE SYSTEMS!!! isn't it the FIRST thing we should look at?

DividedUpWorld's avatar

Sense you could have condensed this comment into a rant and not a massive monologue? You speak sense, but here, it is too much.

Deeds not words define us. The only real solution to how to at least start to deal with sociopathic leftism is to relentlessly marginalize and ostracize these scum into utter irrelevance and inconsequentiality.

Watch their reactions to being ignored and dismissed, and once the Glenn Close moment of “I will not be ignored!” starts to play out, well, self defense is valid and justified.

carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

well, you know women talk too much. guilty as charged

DividedUpWorld's avatar

Hilarious refreshing and candid. Best comment of the month, thank you!!!

Mark's avatar

The Left doesn't believe in God anymore so their god is medicine and technology which promotes everlasting life. Kennedy directly brings into question everything they now stand for which is ironic because he is a Leftist.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

I thought some of those intersectional beliefs of old leftists would serve him well and I think they do make it a bit trickier for losers like Warren and Sanders. They can yell and scream, but they never present anything fact- based. It’s pure rhetoric. Kennedy is a leftist of old. The definition of leftist has changed in the last ten years or so,as it’s moved even farther left, don’t you think? I think Kennedy has become more of a centrist. That’s in large part why they have lost a lot of their base. By the new definition, he’s not really a leftist anymore.

Barry Teasley's avatar

Way back in my undergrad days in the 70s, a philosophy prof pointed out that a society’s priorities were reflected in their monuments. For centuries the grandest buildings were cathedrals. After the enlightenment, governmental buildings like in DC and county courthouses took over that spot. After WWII it became and still is hospitals. That is the true religion of many, in the vain hope it will bring immortality. Easy for corporate greed to co-opt that wish.

J. Gan.'s avatar

The short answer is he is disrupting the flow of money and big pharma bloodsucker lobbyists who transit back and forth from big pharma to cushy three letter agency .gov jobs. It is time to advance this agenda now, as it is part of smashing the deep state agenda and the anti-science depopulation agenda of jamming needles full of mRNA into everyone's arms whether they want it or need it. Those idiot senators are all completely bought off and beholden to their special interests. It really shows how much of our government is totally bought off and sell-outs need to be removed from their seats in congress.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Yes, although I’m not sure many realize or even connect these dots when they go to the polls.

Charles Mccarville's avatar

Class snobbery seems to be a major part of the anger as well as pharma influence. ‘Anti-vaxxer’ seems to be about the same as ‘conservative’ or ‘MAGA’ to define someone who is morally and intellectually inferior.

ktrip's avatar

The coverage of RFK has been unbelievable. An article by a CNBC writer led off with in the summary and first paragraph: "Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doubled down on false claims about vaccines during his Senate testimony..." The article by Annika Constantino has since been updated to focus on Tylenol and autism and the stock price of Kenvue. I was so enraged by that BS formulation, "false claims" with a link not to something that refutes the claims but to another one of her articles that talks about "false claims" without substantive support, that I was going to write to her but of course they block that and comments etc. The new article is more balanced because if you do two seconds of research it turns out there are studies linking Tylenol to pregnancy issues already btw. Oh, and BTW, Tylenol can do a nasty job on your liver if you use it too much too. But the way the complicit media regurgitate nonsense is the most infuriating thing next to the whores on the hill bellowing out corporate propaganda.

Mark Brody's avatar

The highly profitable (to government and big Pharma) business of sickening and killing Americans is being threatened by RFK Jr. His policies of science based health create a massive

risk to this business model by threatening to make people healthy. This would be anathema to our government, big Pharma, and the financial powers invested in the illness-creating business. In fact, since health care is perhaps the biggest part of our economy, it threatens the economic health of the country, especially the vested interests. Without doubt, the health and well being of this country endangers the economic health of the plutocrats who run it. RFK Jr. is being attacked on those grounds, not on the grounds of scientific or incorrect policy. His policies are scientifically correct. In a plutocracy, they are politically incorrect.

David Long's avatar

Sorry Alex, but getting vaccines right is a hill worth dying on. He hasn't said their all deadly, but most have not been properly tested. I'll try the science when it's done right, but until then I'll trust the Amish.

Making It Back to Shore's avatar

"As I have written before, vaccines for diseases such as measles and mumps have been studied for generations. They provide near-lifetime protection at low risk. Most kids who get measles won’t die from it, but if we can protect them, we might as well."

There is a difference between being "studied for generations" and those studies actually being valid. I suggest you read Aaron Siri's "What the “Casual Cruelty” of Dr. Paul Offit Reveals" (https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/what-the-casual-cruelty-of-dr-paul).

Too much about vaccines is about the supposed benefits, and way too little is about the costs.

And, just as importantly, it actually frames the debate incorrectly. Because it gives the impression that there is only a binary choice - get vaccinated or don't get vaccinated. Both A Midwestern Doctor (https://substack.com/@amidwesterndoctor) and Dr. Pierre Kory (https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/) have been highlighting alternative treatments to many diseases that have been buried because they are a threat to mainstream medicine's profitability.

Heaven forbid we focus on health instead of money.

Mtu_wa_kweli's avatar

The only way to reform US "healthcare"

is to return it to a cash based system

prices have fallen for Lazik, Plastic Surgery etc - cash based

prices have risen and outcomes became worse since Pharma and government (CMS)

took over.

Neither have any incentive to make you healthy - or reduce the cost of "care"

carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

100% true. insurance puts distance between the payor and the provider. ask your doctor how much a service costs. they have no idea. they'll say it depends on your insurance. and i answer "i can go into any store and everything has a price tag that is not dependent on my insurance!" then i refuse to sign the responsibility for payment thing until someone tells me what i'm going to owe. that generally works

susanb's avatar

So true. I have one doctor who does not accept Medicare. My choice is to find another dr. or self-pay. It's amazing how much less I have to pay compared to what they normally charge the insurance company.