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Glad I live in Alabama where they passed a law in 2021 that mRNA covid shots wouldn't be added to mandatory school vaccine requirements. And that we also allow religious exemptions.

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I have two kids under two. I have told my wife, only over my cold dead body will my kids every be injected with these shots. Hope a lot of other parents feel the same.

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Public Health is now all about the Benjamins. Nothing more, nothing less.

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I posted this elsewhere, but it's important so that we keep our sanity ...

Remember, EACH state sets the requirements. The Flu shot and HPV are on the schedule but the vast majority of states DO NOT require these to attend school. To me, it's all about the liability shield.

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The CDC has become a big Pharma tool that kills people. How about we get rid of them rather than destroy more children.

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This is absolutely horrifying. If this happens, I really hope more people wake up & push back.

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The cdc has zero credibility. They are as trustworthy as the ukranian government.

Defund the cdc and bar any cdc SES operative from every serving in a government role again.

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I saw this response by Steve Kirsch on substack that seems very appropriate... "Dr. Paul Offit who sits on the FDA advisory committee isn't getting the booster. He is a world expert on vaccines. The vaccine offers no benefit: all the mice challenged with Omicron got Omicron. It was 100% a failure in preventing infection and previous doses already provide protection for hospitalization and death. Do any of you know something Paul Offit doesn't know? Please let us know and share the scientific evidence. Thank you."

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I think there will be massive pushback. Home schooling is taking off. Private schools without these mandates are another option. I'd love to see the public school system and the idiotic teachers unions lose a big public battle like pushing for these vaccines.

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Oct 18, 2022·edited Oct 18, 2022

it's definitely going to happen

now comirnaty will be covered under the national childhood vaccine injury act passed in 1986

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Injury_Act

ever try to sue a vaccine maker? did you know it's directed to a special vaccine court with special judges? did you know the vaccine makers are represented by federal lawyers *you* pay for?

at least now, instead of paying for big bird to shoot up elmo on PBS, we will get to enjoy professionally produced comirnaty commercials with spry, paranoid old people dancing in fields accompanied background murmuring, "...may cause myocarditis, pericarditis, cause all your cancer to come out of remission, deep vein thrombosis, and somehow up your odds of dementia & diabetes..."

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Isn't it all part of the plan? Once it is on the schedule, they can never be sued...

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Oct 18, 2022·edited Oct 18, 2022

Please, please, please click on the "comment" button here: https://www.regulations.gov/document/CDC-2022-0111-0001

And leave public feedback.

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How do we prevent this, Alex? You have hundreds of thousands of receptive followers. Any guidance here would be well received.

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Oct 18, 2022·edited Oct 18, 2022

On the plus side, making them mandatory would absolutely decimate government schools, which is the primary means of reproduction for crazy people.

That, and it would just hasten the existing trend: https://normalweirdo.substack.com/p/school-choice-programs-sweeping-the

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It has been over 2 and a half years since Covid shots came out and still no risk/benefit analysis has been presented by the CDC to the public. Why is that? You are spending a lot of our money trying to convince us that they are "safe and effective". Please show us the proof. We are tired of your "just trust us" attitude.

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This is the event about which I have been whining in these stacks since they began and of which everyone here should be most scared. Alex's analysis is completely correct. They have just been waiting to add this nonsense injection (no benefit to any child, ever, for practical purposes -- and lots of injury) so that the government and, even more, the pharmas can FOREVER have no liability for killing you and your children.

This vaccine liability exclusion is some of the worst law ever to pass in the US and would be first on my list to revoke if I ran the world. But most actual vaccines have very limited and well understood side effects and most that caused this level of harm have never even gotten close to being approved. This one is neither a vaccine nor a net benefit to children (or anyone under 70 really) but putting it on the schedule would exempt it just the same.

If you know someone influential, this would be the time to use your ticket. Otherwise, you should saturate CDC and your Congresspeople in the loudest way you can. Once this is on the pediatric schedule it will never come off and liability protection for the innumerable harms, all unstudied still, that will follow will be permanent. If there is later corrective action, it will come from YOUR POCKET, not those who committed the harm.

I am not much of an alarmist as those that see me here from time to time know, but this is solidly in the alarming category because the results are effectively permanent. Those who think they will be able to overturn them later under some fraud thesis have underestimated how hard that is.

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My children will never step foot in a public learning institution ever again. Masks and additional mandatory vaccines draws every sort of line in the sand for me.

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NO!!!

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I will never trust CDC, NIH,WHO or any Government agency again ! Not to mention Doctors or so-called medical professionals

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This is what I wrote them:

I am concerned about learning that the CDC is going to make a vaccine (covid) as part of a regimen for school children when they do not even know what the long-term effects it has produced! Until the pandemic I thought the CDC was an A-number one agency, but as I watched you go against "REAL" science on your policies, ignore research on things like masks, natural immunity and now this policy. You did not even share the real data with people! Israel gave us better data to follow! What happened to following Risk/Benefit rationale in your decisions? You can know for sure that if you enact this and it is required for my son, I will pull him from school and home school him for his last years. We both had Covid and a good case of it and that should count as natural immunity! Amazing, my brother had four shots and caught Covid. I had natural immunity and only caught it once, but you're going to make this a mandate. I had long term effects from having Covid. I ended up with Pericarditis and had to have another ablation because my AFIB came back after having this! You cannot tell me differently this was not the cause, but yet you want to subject teenagers and small children to having a disease and you don't think twice about it. As a RHIA, a Biologist, and someone who has worked in a level 4 lab in Microbiology in my past and reviews medical records daily, your decisions are off. This should be taken to a vote for the people of the United States not mandated on them. I question your motives in making this decision if it is not based on compensation that you are receiving from the pharmaceutical companies that manufacture these vaccines. I knew from day one in January of the year Covid was announced that this was lab manufactured in fact I was at my doctors when I told her that this was lab created! I did not follow your advice. I followed the common sense I had from working in the lab and I am glad that I did not listen to the CDC because you make the world feel that you are incompetent with your decisions anymore!

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I have always gotten flu shots without question. No more. I laughed at Jennie McCarthy. Now I am grateful that my youngest daughter and her husband have slowed down and/or resisted the incredible number of vaccinations being pushed on my youngest grandchild. I simply don't trust the medical community any longer.

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I'm a doctor (received 2 Pfizer doses) and can say that my child will never, ever receive these vaccines. He hears my stories about the adverse effects I've seen and is afraid of the shots himself, which is a good thing. If my blue state mandates this for kids to attend public school, we'll be leaving for a red state. I won't even think twice about this.

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This mom only has two words. TRY. ME.

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Any suggestions? My 20 yr old son just got accepted into physical therapy assistant program. Last year covid vx was not required just strongly recommended. Now it is required or an exemption. He is perfectly healthy. I don't know if he can get a medical exemption?

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Oct 18, 2022·edited Oct 18, 2022

Alex might not want to guess, but I will feel free: of course it's all about the liability. I'm certain that the reason for many of the vaccines on the childhood schedule is the same.

The FDA appears to be on the horns of a dilemma. On the one hand, there's incredible pressure (from Pharma and the Biden Administration) for them to put these on the childhood schedule. On the other hand, the obvious fact that most parents don't want to give it to their kids will turn the whole issue into a political hot potato.

When my offspring was young, he had to get all the vaccinations in order to attend school (with which of course I complied, without any second thoughts). So this doesn't directly affect me anymore, but if I was a parent today, I would have to seriously consider homeschooling, with attendant impact on ability to make a living, or moving to a more enlightened state.

It will be interesting to see what happens.

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The CDC advisory committee that's planning to pull a fast one tomorrow and get the mRNA vax added to the recommended children's schedule is the very same committee of liars that has rubber stamped every other vaccine on the childhood schedule, with promises that they are all "safe and effective." Alex no longer believes them when it comes to the Covid shots, but, incredibly, he still believes them when it comes to every other childhood vaccine. He has bragged numerous times that he has gotten all the other shots for his children. It's just the Covid vax that he doesn't trust.

How many of you agree with him that the agency we've watched lie about all things Covid these past two years somehow miraculously tells the truth about everything else?

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And this was the game plan all along. The 1986 law granting immunity needs to be repealed. The moneychangers have finally gone too far this time. Dr Paul Offit voted NO, and as he said, he voted no only because HELL NO was not an option. It’s no longer about the science, if it ever was! Leave a comment on the federal register website for the meeting. Speak your outrage !!

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The threat of not selling the vaccines is how they got the government to give them the liability protection they have already. I personally think there would be overall fewer deaths if no one was vaccinated for anything.

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Commented (not for the first time either I’ve commented every time they have met to “approve” this shit. I’m sure it will have the EXACT SAME IMPACT AS MY LAST COMMENT. 9none at all). Did it anyway for the same reason I vote. Cuz at least I tried. 🤷‍♀️

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Alex - I am betting that you are most likely correct on the liability piece. In fact, you're probably a little too late to this issue as Robert Barnes and others have been speaking about this for nearly 2 yrs now. This has been the plan all along so the pharma's can have immunity...nothing more, nothing less...

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This would be absolutely terrible for the health of children. And they would be absolutely overstepping all ethical boundaries. For a jab that wouldn't even pass to Approved if they'd give it even the slightest critical look.

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I have a 12 and 15 year old who I totally regret getting them any vaccines. They did not get the covid vaccine or the flu shot the last 2 years. My eyes have been opened wide these last 2 years and they will never ever get another vaccine of any kind as long as they are minors. I wish I had known back then what I do now. Before covid I fully trusted our CDC, FDA and the doctors. Not anymore! I have lost all respect for doctors. We have been lied to for years!

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Am I the only one who fully supports this? Let's get everyone's cards on the table and see what's what already. All those who wore masks in the supermarket because they didn't want any trouble, those who were scared to speak to their neighbors about the tyranny of big pharma and big govt, those who went and got fake vax cards because they just wanted to get on with their life...well, now they're coming for your kids. So let's have some trouble already.

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Absolute insanity. This is like trying to vaccinate against the common cold.

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One more reason for future generations to home school.

Wouldn't it be interesting if THIS was the thing that finally caused our pathetic educational system to collapse?

Couldn't happen to a finer institution...

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I think you are optimistic. Yes, the majority of parents have rejected the "recommended" vax for their kids. But you have underestimated how vital public schools are for working parents. There is simply no good alternative available for basic child care.

How many adults would have decided against the vax for themselves if they had not been threatened with loss of employment? The same principle applies here. No childcare for refusal to vax = no job. When faced w/a choice between putting food on the table or gambling no harm will come from compliance most parents will fold. Especially since there are zero studies related to the prevalence of risk. Any assessment of risk is based on educated guesswork by those who have been following what accurate reporting is available or simply a stab in the dark for those who have not.

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hey, if you are for some reason *cough, cough* thinking about home-schooling your kids, you should check out the home school legal defense association!

https://hslda.org/

before they somehow turned 25%-50% of the country anti-vax, the left was slowly passing pro-vaxx & anti-homeschool laws. most people didn't care at the time, but home school enrollments have doubled the past 2 years.

thanks, brandon!

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Oct 18, 2022·edited Oct 18, 2022

The CDC phone number is 800-232-4636. Choose 1 for English 2 for Spanish. Then choose 8 and you will get to speak with someone. If their phone lines shut down from too many incoming calls, maybe they will get the message.

Boycott any schools that try to force students to have these shots to attend. Vote only for Board Of Education candidates that refuse to force children to take these shots. If there ever was a hill to die on, this is it.

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There is no way the CDC bucks big pharma's demands and not put this in the vaccination schedule. There will eventually be several new mRNA gene altering injections added. You can bet every year.

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These wankers have painted themselves into a corner and the implications are staggering. This is just one of many reasons why I am concerned that no matter how the elections turn out, the democrats will not peacefully relinquish power. They simply have too much to lose. Very dangerous days, I fear.

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alarm bells should be going off

emergency powers should have been stopped months ago

it should be clear this is all about power by now

this needs to STOP!!!

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This is why people become antivaxxers. Manufacturers protection is valued more than human protection. 😣

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More or less my line of thinking when I heard the news. The continued 'emergency' is becoming problematic, so it needs to end, but end of 'emergency' means end of EUA shots. Time to get Comirnaty fully indemnified.

I add that this seems awfully rushed, like Pfizer and the feds see the pitchforks and torches beginning to coalesce and this is a proactive but rushed counter.

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Vaccines on the childhood schedule get permanent liability protection even for shots given to adults. This is absolutely, positively why it is in the CDC agenda. They can’t end the emergency until the shots have permanent liability protection.

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Anything that pushes more young people out of the public school system - and the grip of the teachers’ unions and their woke indoctrination - is a good thing. HomeschoolIng, co-ops for those who can’t, private schools for those who can, move to a free state, etc. Because it’s on the schedule doesn’t mean you’ve got to give it to your kids. Parents who have given the state that much authority over their kids should rethink their position.

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This makes me physically sick. So corrupt and disgusting without any consideration for actual health.

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This has been the plan all along, to get the snake oil on the childhood vax schedule before the emergency runs out.

What do you think the CDC will vote for? Unanimous full recommendation. Maybe 1 dissenting vote?

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I'm going to submit a public comment and I suggest all of you do too. We all know how they will rule but I think it's important to flood them with reasonable objections. I would appreciate feedback on the following:

What justification is there for adding the COVID-19 vaccines to the childhood immunization schedule?  Present data suggest there is no reasonable substantiation.

Firsly, there is strong evidence that they do not prevent infection or transmission of the COVID-19 disease.  If the COVID-19 vaccines do provide some protection against severe disease, this would classify them solely as a therapeutic, which is clearly a personal medical decision.

Secondly, the health risk posed by COVID-19 is infinitesimally low as shown in the CDC's own data, though, data from around the world has shown a significant increase in risk for potentially serious health issues such as myocarditis, particularly in adolescent boys.  To the point that several nations around the world have stopped recommending the COVID-19 vaccine for people under 18 save for those at grave risk from the disease.

Thirdly, this broad brush stroke does not take into account the long-lived natural immunity conferred by previously COVID-19.  Dated estimates (April 2022) show that 3 in 4 children have already had COVID-19, most asymptomatically.  And given the data is now six-months old and the highly contagious omicron variant has continued, that number is assuredly higher.

Based on the above, it appears that the only logical reason to consider adding the COVID-19 vaccines to the childhood immunization schedule is to provide additional liability protection to the manufacturers of these therapeutics.

Given that trust is at an all-time low in public health and government institutions, I and a significant majority of other parents encourage you to do the right thing and not add the COVID-19 vaccines to the childhood immunization schedule.

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