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They know. The data on those who took the vax and those who took the vax and boosters is getting worse just as it's been seen in the UK. Now, my friend, a true believer in following the Democrat Party & Big Pharma line was bragging to me last week that he got the booster and "felt great." I knew not to say anything about the booster as that would only drive him to get it faster.

I sent a link to him and another true blue believer last week on the European study from "Just the News" that all cause mortality is not reduced by the vax. It only made him angry. He responded that "any garbage" won't change his mind and to not send him "nonsense."

Yesterday, he called me. He has the ChiCom virus.

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And if he dies, he’ll be saying he would’ve died harder, if he hadn’t got his clot shots.

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The Science tells us that he would have been 95% more dead.

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It's the 'greater g👀d' covid cross they die on.

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I always question anything that is "for the greater good". That phrase precedes something that will go horribly wrong almost every time.

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Bingo.

True Catholic teaching on experimental medicine . 28 esp, regarding good of community.

Bte, last true Pope.

#NoMarch2020withoutOctober1958

https://novusordowatch.org/2021/08/pope-pius12-moral-limits-of-medical-treatment/

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One of the "bad guys" in a fantasy miniatures wargame is an alien race organized around "the greater good." The customer base was so ignorant of the associated evil that the game publisher was forced to add further reprehensible components so that players would recognize the inherent degeneracy.

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LMAO!!! She NAILED it!

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Can’t see the video in the uk. It appears blocked

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Yes, it's true. When I set my VPN to United Kingdom the video is censored. Unfortunately, you live in a totalitarian state. I suggest getting a VPN (if they let you) so you can have access to any information.

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It's an absolutely damning video...about bullshit greater good...

Commie good to justify theft, enslavement , forced DEATHVAX.

Commie traitors deserve death

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It has always bugged me so much because they are the ones morally in the wrong, having actively assisted in killing and harming more people.

Shelle.substack.com

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Hahahaha isn’t that the truth!😂

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😂😂😂

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I am not so sure that they know. I work for a life insurance company and senior management seems to be pretty oblivious as to what is going on.

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The actuaries MUST know.

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I am an actuary and I can assure you that many, if not most, do NOT.

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I forgot the brainwashing runs so deep. The denial of my friends , educated but in upstate New York, can’t talk to them about much of anything now. Lost their critical thinking skills. I get a blank stare a lot. Blank.

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Know that you are not alone in upstate NY.

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Thanks , but I moved, LaBelle Florida, unexpectedly. Just before lockdown.

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What are you seeing from an actuary perspective?

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Are your peers in denial of the data?

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Actuaries love data. The issue is what is its source and is it compromised. If you are looking to the IMHE, for example, then you are going to draw the wrong conclusions.

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ahhhhhhhhh. yep. i could tell the data sets would be f*cked from the beginning - if -

a. they're counting falling off a ladder as death by covid,

b. they're not counting someone as vaxed till 14d after the last shot, which

b1. resulted in more "unvaxxed" covid cases (even tho they were vaxed), and

b2. resulted in more "unvaxxed" deaths/complications from the vax (yes they were vaxxed too)

c. I could keep going but why bother. GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT.

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If you don't know, then you simple have not looked or allowed to look. The data is there, and it is material to setting next year's premium rates.

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Do you have access to vaccine status?

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If they admit out loud that this was a mistake, they're opening the litigation floodgates.

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But they have HR departments advising them and certainly they should be asking questions at this point.

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Living a disconnected life is what most do.

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Great story. I love happy endings!

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I believe that he probably had a reaction to the toxic shot and not any virus. But a bad test will say you're infected when you've had an injection that produces spike proteins in your body. So no difference--a body trying to detox or the mythical covid19.

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I don’t believe that Covid 19 is a myth. I’m unvaccinated and was hospitalized with it for a week. It’s a domino effect, fever caused me not to move, which lead to Covid pneumonia, which lead to a blood clot. I was on every over the counter, along with high doses of vitamin D. The one glaring thing I did miss was that baby aspirin. While hospitalized I received blood thinners. However, when testing positive, you mean to tell me our esteemed healthcare system was unable and unwilling, to tell or remind me to take a baby aspirin? Total load of crap. I did receive Ivermectin from FLCCC, but it wasn’t until I was already in the hospital. I have it now along with a plug in machine for oxygen. My oxygen levels were 87 and could’ve remained at home had I had that on hand at the beginning.

Covid is a bioweapon and each person regardless of vaccination status, will react differently.

My FIL got Covid right after his booster. My MIL not boosted, never got it from him.

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Interesting. I got covid-19 too as an unvaccinated person and was sick for 3 days, quite severely coughing, with fever. After 3 days, my symptoms had run their course -- mostly. Three weeks later, I still have a daily-runny nose with clear-phlegm and chest congestion. It seems unending and unwilling to subside. I tried a week-long run of twice-daily for 24/hour continuous protection of mucinex which didn't seem to help and tried a week long antibiotic prescription from my doctor (no change). Its very odd. Where is the phlegm coming from? What is its origin? I have no idea.

I also took ivermectin (albeit knockoff from India), while sick. On day 1, day 3, day 5 and day 7. Since this hasn't gone away, I've tried a half-dose at the 2 week mark for another 1,3,5,7 day frequency and three week later (having just finished the antibiotics and second round over ivermectin and using mucinex daily....still phlegm. Never had phelgm pre-covid). Thoughts? advice? from anyone including the peanut gallery?

Apart from the phelgm/coughing it up, my strength and energy levels are normal. No headaches, no fever, no heart palpitations, etc. I've also tried taking zinc, tumeric, vitamin c/d....and NAC. With no luck gidding me of this. I even tried garlic for one the three weeks.

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it's counterintuitive but mucinex does NOT work for that. lots of water, hot green tea with whiskey and honey and lemon. and at least 10k IUs of vitamin d and 100 mgs of Zinc and 1k of C. need to get your immune system loaded up to get over that lingering cough hump.

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I agree with keeping yourself highly hydrated. I also like the idea of whiskey…

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whiskey is just as medicinal as red wine. especially cough,congestion etc. in moderation of course 😏

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Mucinex causes the phlegm to loosen and run.

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That's good right because it leaves your system? so your system can fight the minimal amount that remains in theory and you .......heal faster? At least, I imagine that's how its supposed to work. I figure less mucus = good. More = worse?

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Supplementing with D3 is sloooow. As in weeks. Better to use a fast-acting vitamin D analog like calcifediol. Your vitamin D levels rise within hours with calcifediol. (When labs measure your 25OHD level, they are measuring your calcifediol level.)

And there are some groups that have a hard time benefiting from D3 supplementation: the obese, people with liver dysfunction, and people with gut dysfunction, and the elderly.

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Okay. I'll try drinking more water I guess and uping my intake of my vitamins a bit beyond my current level :)

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May 4, 2022·edited May 4, 2022

I am a mucinex skeptic; anytime I have tried it for symptom relief nothing improved.

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The only strength of Mucinex that works for me is the 1200. My doctor used to prescribe 400 and it never did anything, so I stopped taking it. But that 1200 did the trick.

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Quercitin cleared it up for a few people within hours

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I brought Quercetin, Zinc, Vitamin D and C to any friends or family that had Covid and they were ALL better within 24 hours. One person was my 82 year old MIL. Dr. Zelenko sells his Z stack that has all of these in it.

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Please pray for Dr Zelenko as he is doing a little bit poorly again.

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Praying for Dr. Zelenko. I am a Canadian and have purchased 6 months worth of Z stack a few months ago and am ready to put in another order. Thank the Lord so far so good. My family physician also gave me a script for Vitamin D 50,000 IU once a week. I am not jabbed.

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I think I had it a few months ago (didn't get tested so who knows), took Ivermectin, Hyland's Leg Cramps pills (quinine from bark of fever tree), QUERCETIN, zinc, D, a multivitamin, and SELENIUM and I recovered quickly and fully.

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You may have needed the IVM every day for a few days. What strength was it?

Try a good nasal spray like Xlear and a mouthwash to gargle like Scope.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-recover-protocol/

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3% Hydrogen Peroxide [H2O2 (do not swallow!)] makes a good gargle, too. Diluted H2O2 can be used as a nasal spray. (DO NOT use tap water to dilute! Use distilled.)

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Yes, Dr. Mercola recommends nebulizing diluted H2O2 at the first sign of a cold.

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My tablets are 12mg. So I was considering "2 tablets" or 24mg an about-right dosage for 210 pounds. That's about 95kg so thats 24 mg / 95kg = 0.25mg/kg which is kind of where most of the IVM showing good results are. Between 0.2 to 0.4mg/kg of bodyweight. Your link says 0.2mg/kg body weight. So ....yeah about-the-right range. Taking it every 2nd day, I was getting 0.25mg/kg per 2 days or 0.125 / day. So maybe a bit on the low side. Maybe I'll take 2 every 2nd day and 1 on off-days so its closer to the 0.2 mark for a week and see what happens.

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nurse here, covid recovered unjabbed. Fwiw the ivermectin dosing is a bit low, try .5mg per kg 48 mg. this is a very safe and well tolerated product. Take in morning with zinc 50mg with food. I get my recommnedations from FLCCC alliance. Remember your vit c and d, the gargle as mentioned good idea and NAC is fantastic for bronchial and total body inflammation. cheers from Ontario

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Yeah, I needed 25 mg for seven days.

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I'm also unvaxxed, and got COVID in late March. It started with a 3 week long sore throat. I still felt good enough to snowboard every weekend, but it was annoying. Then then came the congestion and a flood of mucus. I suffered through another three weeks of that (while still snowboarding, of course), which gradually subsided into what you are describing, almost to the letter. Finally, this week, it's to the point where it's barely noticeable. I also noted diminished sense of smell, which is returning. Based on my experience, you can expect the symptoms to end soon with no intervention.

During the worst of it I rinsed my sinuses with warm salt water, then downed a shot of nyquil chased with a half-shot of codeine-laced cough medicine (the "purple drank") before going to bed.

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I had covid in January I also had a bad sore throat (tonsillitis which is typical for me).Took Ivermectin, lots of iodine gargle, antibiotic, zinc, vitamin D, Quercetin and steroid. Sore throat gone in three days. Only slight fever. Tired for several weeks. Tested positive for 16 days. lost 8 pounds. I say the key was early treatment, ivermectin and the gargle.

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Damn, I knew I should have stocked up on ivermectin.

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Thanks for sharing your experience Danno. You should a lot like me in that you seemed to have no let it stop you and continued on with your daily life asap.

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Where did you get codine?!

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In Sweden, with a prescription, you can get cough medicine with morphine. Maybe that's why they didn't have to lock down :D

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Would a nebulizer help? Mercola and a few other docs recommend this for all respiratory infections, not just Covid. I used one when I first came down with Covid and it seemed to help - they recommend saline mixed with hydrogen peroxide. The formula is in Mercola's book and he is on Substack.

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I've heard Peter McCullough say similar things. I probably should run that through my nasal passage and hope it kills whatever is remaining. You never know...

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What worked and in eight hours (after four days of ivermectin) total was the nebulizer from 1:30 am to 3:30 am continuously, until pain stopped, then three hours sleep to 6:30, then three hours nebulizer to 9:30 . Done and over with. Then four days of gentle yard work to put some starch in my step. Used Dr. David Brownstein's formula. Feeling really good now, but it avoided my lungs and sneaked into my sinuses and started sharp jabs of pain. I'm 77.

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I have the same phlegm thing. Pretty sure it’s just post-nasal drip. It’s less and less with each passing day, but it does have an annoying habit of tickling my uvula so I cough at the most inconvenient times - like in public. Blowing my nose helps. Have you tried the zinc/quercetin combo?

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It is good to know I am not the only one. Honestly, I was doing zinc/quercetin as a preventative measure once every 3 days or so (25mg/100mg) for the first 18 or so months of the pandemic and then kind of lapsed b/c I was finding the cost kind of high and nobody I knew around me had ever had covid. So I was questioning if it was worth the $40/month to dose using pills from amazon.ca. Maybe I'll buy another round of quercetin and see if it helps. I've still been doing zinc b/c zinc/vitamin d both are so cheap.

What I find weird though is sometimes my phlegm is almost gone......by end-of-day...then I go to sleep and by the time I wake up, its back with a vengeance. I jokingly swear if I stayed awake for a few days straight, I'd be cured. I'm kidding, of course.

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I might suggest you use an air purifier and place near the head of your bed.

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It’s funny, but I gave the Z/Q to my husband and then I just took zicam myself when we had Covid. I think his coughing resolved quicker. I went back on the Z/Q later and I think it’s helping. I was waking up around 2 am coughing, but that’s stopped. I have the morning thing, but I have that from allergies anyway. Three weeks ago I couldn’t talk for any extended time without a coughing fit. One of my friends asked to stop our phone conversation…I think she was convinced it was killing me!

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I had the same case of the snots after covid but I was having it before too, hay fever. Can it be you have developed an allergy to something because of covid? I've heard of flu changing what one is allergic to.

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Hmm, I guess its possible I've developed allergies. So far, to date, the only thing I've been allergic too was one-step grandmother's house who was a bit...uhhh....of a ... mentally ill cat-lady. Literately, the house in Victoria had like 20+ cats and I had 2 cats at home as a child with no issues. However, within 30 minutes, my eyes and nose were running.

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Might be a good idea to see if you've developed say, a grass allergy, or mold?

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My doc included quercetin in his protocol when I had covid (probably Delta) August 2020. I also had an Rx for Budesonide inhaler which I only needed on Days 8 and 9! (Have you read about the Day 8 syndrome? So interesting.) Naps really help too! :-)

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I think you take quercetin with zinc to increase uptake of zinc but oddly not at sane time hours apart

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Wesley B,Try Gaia Herbs "mighty Lungs".I took it after Covid and it really helped.I have given it to others and it helped them too.One had lung leasions and her DR wanted to know why she was better.Ann K

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My husband and myself, both unvaccinated, had it a few months back. We both took ivermectin plus all of the mentioned vitamins. At the time, our teledoc said he’d call in a steroid if it moved deep into our chest. We didn’t need it and I’m sorry, I don’t remember which one he mentioned but I would start there. Hope this helps.

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remember, IVM is not magical...it simply gets the zinc into the cells where virus can't replicate. a zinc ionosphore I believe is the term...same thing with quercetin and green tea extract

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But there will still many people who took no treatment at all.

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Try colloidal silver in the nebulizer (both from Amazon), a couple times a day. Also serrapeptase (on empty belly)I took 125k. These really helped me

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May 4, 2022·edited May 4, 2022

yes try nasal rinses with either povidone iodine or peroxide....search dr mccullough and covid nasal wash. I do it anytime I'm haveing nasal congestion, sneezing or sore throat and sometimes after church or being around a bunch of coughing ppl. easiest way is a squeeze bulb and just spray it 2x up each nostril till it barely gets in the throat...then gargle with the remainder. they say it will kill all viral load in the nostirlls where it takes hold. Been using it in india for months for frontline workers as a preventative.

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I had a single dose Pfizer in September, and didn’t succumb to a hit of Omicron until late February. It barely touched the sides, light cough one night and a really needed sleep in til 10am one morning, then I was up and about again. After I tested negative, I had to take one dose of Novavax in order to be ‘fully vaccinated’ to start a new job here in Melbourne, Australia. So very mild covid, recovery, vaccine the day after recovery. 9 weeks later a slight cough remains, I simply cannot get rid of it.

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Quercitin? Benedryl?

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I forgot to mention that I took IVM 25 mg. for first 6 days. I weigh 97 pounds.

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Wow, that's almost double the dosage per bodyweight as me just because you're a lot smaller. I guess what other people have been saying is true. I should probably up my dosage for a while to see if IVM makes the last of the phlegm go away.

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Maybe try Claritin or Zyrtec in lieu of Mucinex for a few days. Don't know what part of country you're in, but everything in Texas is blooming and allergies are rampant. I'm not a doc so, "Take what you like and leave the rest." Let us all know how you're doing after a while.

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You may have silent reflux. Look it up...30% of people have it and don't realize. Clear phlegm is the key symptom.

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Interesting. I've never heard of this but it does sound similar symptom wise. I'll look more into it. Thanks.

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My father in law had "walking" COVID penumonia- he continued to work despite sounding absolutely horrific. He probably would have been hospitalized if he went to the doctor. By the time he did go, they diagnosed the pneumonia and gave him basically nothing (Z-pak and Vit D). I got him on NAC and "air power" , basically Guafinesin with a bunch of natural extracts and he was about 75% better in a few days, finally loosened and got rid of the phlegm. The NAC did the trick though, along with a LOT of water

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Thank God you survived as once in the hospital, you are a prisoner with no rights.

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That was my first thought too

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I’m sorry you were so sick and glad you’re doing better now. I convinced my husband not to get boosted (Pfizer) and he got Covid a few months later. I had the J&J last April, not boosted, and didn’t get sick at all.

His doc tested him and sent him home with instructions to drink fluids and take zinc. I got him a telehealth appt and he was prescribed ivermectin, HCQ, antibiotic, and a steroid, as well as told to take several supplements and aspirin. He was back to work the next week. Never heard back from his doctor.

The medical community, insurance industry, and pharma have a lot to answer for.

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Seriously! It’s ridiculous to be treated in this manner. I felt like I had done plenty of research on what to have on hand. I was on Quercetin, zinc, multivitamin, vitamin D 8,000 iu’s, vitamin K and vitamin C. Was given all of that in the hospital as well. Refused remdesivir and was given Olumiant instead.

I was traveling and stayed awake for 24 hours. Lack of proper rest didn’t help.

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Fever is part of our immune response and not a negative. Fever activates the immune cells and slows the growth of bacteria and viruses.

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Aye, I tried not to take anything to reduce the fever and just suffered through it. I never got extremely hot either. Just....sweaty and noticeably hotter forehead/body temperature which isn't so bad.

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I hope that you're doing better. Agree with you that it affects everyone differently. It seemed to hit everyone in my family in our "weak spots".

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Unvaxxed. Got covid. 3 days. My nose is runny too. I feel it’s the body cleansing itself of excess mucus.

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Same here unvaxxed and got Covid in Jan ‘20.. quite sick for three days with super bad headache, cough etc. Not sick since.

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Same, unvaxxed. Quick sick with it in February included The Worst Most Evil sore throat I can ever remember. Otherwise I was mostly alright. Definitely felt like nothing I’ve ever had before--like a contaminant of some sort. My vaxxed bf caught it first and worst though. And he’s been sick a couple times since. Not me.

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When I was sick, the doc prescribed nothing because I was not "compromised" enough. At the Ace of Spades blog, one blogger wrote of their experience and I followed their protocol every time I traveled and for a week after I tested negative.

I took Quercetin, 2 Claritin, Pseudophed, Motrin, Zinc, D3 and aspirin...used the Pulse Oximeter...by day 3 my saturation was 97 from 92. It isn't a myth, but we had the right drugs to treat people with and the FDA and Fauci are complicit in every death. Remdesivir kills, and not many make it back from ventilators.

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I think that people underestimate just how damaging ventilators were. I think the statistics was something like 7 out of 8 people put on a ventilator died. I heard the story of a guy who was so strung out on drugs and in bad shape, that they didn't put him on a ventilator because they were so "short" on vents. He was the only one that survived in the hospital from the group of 9 or 10 people. The staff was recently noting how had he not been a drug addict, he'd have been dead.

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It is a bioweapon developed by the Chinese and it's pretty nasty when you get it. You're going to pull through though. Keep yourself active and try to stay in good spirits. My prayers are with you. Sounds like you have it pretty bad. Covid is nasty but the vast majority of us will pull through it.

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You Re right, it's a biowepon and your body will recognize it's a foregin substance and will mobilize to fight it ,just help it with everything that is available.

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I had something twice. Not vaccinated. Got on weekly ivermectin ( shedding? helping elderly family members, damaged by 2nd shot. ) after bleeding while ten years in menopause. The first round of sickness was in March 2020, no tests available. Felt like bad flu. January had a cold for 3 days, my vaccinated elderly family were sick for 2 weeks. They just got another booster last week. I’m trying to stay my distance . Headache and runny nose and stiff neck… but I’m here to help them any way I can. God did a miracle & I unexpectedly moved to central Florida just before lockdown. Actual freedom compared to upstate New York. We helped my mom elderly boyfriend last summer, the 2nd jab messed him up for months.

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Do not test! It’s a scam. AND good for you that you got to a “free” state. I’d love to live around “normal” people. I’m in Commifornia with all the major nut bars. It’s mental illness on a wide scale in certain parts of the state.

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I believe you, don’t give up, ever. ( I had prayed for a long time to move.. never in a million years expected to be happily married 3 years now. God blessed me. Now I can help my mom and her boyfriend addicted to the booster shots.

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I never give up…my mom used to call me a tenacious little B…lol! God is AMAZING! We think in human terms. In God’s ethereal world, ALL is possible. We never know what’s around the corner when we have FAITH…through good and bad. I’m so happy for you. Love and enjoy your life!

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I had covid in its Delta form last September and it felt unlike any flu I'd had. It felt evil and engineered. I had horse paste on hand and used it before I even tested positive. I think it kept me out of the hospital.

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How do people know what variant they’ve had? It makes no sense. People still get colds and influenza. How do people know they have CONvid? Serious question…

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That's a good question. If you talk to doctors who are really pro-early treatment protocols like McCullough, he basically says that the more-infectious strain spreads way-faster. BA.1 spreads as fast as measles so basically everyone was going to get it sooner or later, probably, from an epidemiological standpoint. Whereas BA.2 is like 2.2x faster spreading than that even....

However, Delta was like 1/8th of BA.2. Once you get infected with BA.2, your likelihood of catching Delta is reduced by like 88%? The CDC came out saying natural immunity was 8.1x more effective than vaccination against delta. Hence, catch BA.2 and your chance of getting delta drops like a rock. Because BA.2 spreads fast and gives protection against delta, eventually, delta will be in some infected person and even if he goes about his usual day to buy some groceries at grocery store, goes to work and hangs out with his family at home, etc and all the people he'll encountered will have all had BA.2. So they've got like this wall Delta can't penetrate of immunity from antibodies. So there's nowhere for Delta to jump to/infect and it dies out when the current-host recovers. That's the general "concept" behind why the "old strains" dies out.

There is a brief period were both strains exist and then it becomes almost exclusively the new-strain "in theory" TM.

Once one that spreads faster comes along, the people with the old version can't give it to anyone because almost everyone has caught the newer version.

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I remember the days when everyone got sick, some stayed home (with chicken soup, Vicks and 7-up) and others went to work. Calling in sick WAS frowned upon. Now we have a generation of psycho Covidiot hypochondriacs. Pathetic! And think about the children with these Covidiots…scared of their own shadow.

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I credit my light symptoms to IVM right off the bat too.

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Yes! This is like no other way to explain, how the whole world got this Bug.(Bioweapon)

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The covid clotting mechanism is complicated. There is standard fibrinogen, there is viral clotting of erythrocytes, and there is antibody-based clotting.

Aspirin will help with fibrinogen, but not with the others. Vitamin D may help with antibody-based clotting and antihistamines may help with excessive inflammation along with vitamin D.

I don't know of anything except early treatment with antivirals that will help with antibody-based clotting.

I suspect that you were not prepared to treat and did not treat based on suspicion. Unless you have researched it yourself, how could you know?

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Thank you.( D & good fish oil in my routine).

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Do those machines require a prescription?

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No I ordered mine right from Amazon. Ordered the one that deliverers 7liters of oxygen and is also a nebulizer.

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I'll take a look and see if those search terms help me find it. Not for myself but for a loved one.

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CPAPs require an RX

Then there’s CraigsList….

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May 4, 2022·edited May 4, 2022

every person I know who boosted around january had omicron within 1 month. I've had 3 sinus turning into chest colds over 6 months but test neg for covid. Never vaxx'd. I always take a few days IVM just in case.

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CONvid has never been isolated-ever! It was computer generated. Where is the virus under a microscope?

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Even if its computer-generated, traditional vaccines like those given to chickens are known to shed. I work with triple vaccinated coworkers. So even if you buy the "covid-is-fake" or "covid is snake-venom in the water" theory, I do occasionally drink filtered water and whatever is in the vaccine could shed/cause sickness in unvaccinated people like me "in theory" TM. Who knows lol. All I know is I still have the phlegm and would ideally love to get rid of it.

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I don't doubt people are getting sick but the cause is still up for debate. No one has yet to isolate any sars-co2 virus. You can't create a test or a vaccine for something never shown to exist. What is making people sick? That is still a mystery that no one has answered. All illness comes from three things: toxicity, stress, nutritional depletion.

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Mass Hysteria?....

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My quadruple jabbed sister in law has Covid for a 2nd time. She just had Covid in December when she told me how grateful she was that she had been boosted otherwise it would have been so much worse. Uh huh. She is a healthy 35 year old woman and it took her more than 3 weeks to recover the first time. I'm pretty sure had she not been jabbed with those clot shots, Covid would have been a walk in the park for her the first time and she would have been immune and not gotten it a 2nd time in less than 5 months. But, still she found time to lecture me about how concerned she was for my safety because I haven't been jabbed. Yet, I'm the one (knock on wood) who has managed to avoid the 'Rona for 26 months despite going to many super spreader events maskless. Their arrogant, delusional, condescension has become laughable. There is no penetrating that level of psychosis.

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I hope she doesn't vote as why must the rest of us suffer for her bad policy decisions. And as a philosophy prof told me, "you can fix stupid."

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I’m pretty sure 35 yo cannot get a fourth shot right now unless you are deemed immune compromised .

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May 4, 2022·edited May 4, 2022

She is in healthcare so maybe that's why she was able to get jabbed? No one is actually checking btw. My dad's friend got 4 jabs months before the 4th booster was ever approved and he did it because when he tested for antibodies after getting the 3rd jab they didn't find any.

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I’ve heard this possibility bc you can go to different pharmacies and it’s poorly monitored . She’s cray

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🙄

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This sounds EXACTLY like my democrat brainwashed brother. Same response exactly. Sad situation.

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It like "they" gave classes on what to yell at people. (I know from experience, it's always yelling.🙄)

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nothing new here....it's the spirit of satan, that's why they yell, and try to tell everyone what to do instead of think for themselves.

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May 6, 2022·edited May 7, 2022

I know of a group of people who have required proof of shots for their get togethers even now, excluding and isolating former friends who did not get the shots but had natural immunity. Just this week, the whole lot of them came down with the virus. It would have happened sooner or later but they chose to spend 2+ years isolating themselves and cutting off friends just to get the thing anyway.

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It’s hard not to like this . I hope it’s a wake up call

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Wow. I bet they stick to their guns.

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Too bad. He’s just another sheep being led to slaughter.

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I'm surprised the d00fus actually admitted to you that he caught it after all of his pro-jab bluster.

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Well thankfully he got vaxxed and boosted. He called to flex on you that he's not in ICU.

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How did you respond to that? I'm just curious, because it happens constantly.

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May 4, 2022·edited May 4, 2022

Well, I told him that I was concerned about him. (I was.) He was let's say grumpy and not feeling well. Said I had been concerned about him and "knew this would happen." He called me today apologizing for his grumpiness the day earlier but is feeling worse.

He's on an antibiotic and the Pfizer anti-viral. He made fun of my "horse dewormer." I told him I had more (I do) but wouldn't offer him any as the last time I did at Christmas (as a just in case measure as I was leaving town), he exploded in anger. Yesterday, first thing I offered him quercetin, zinc, and Vitamin D. He immediately declined. Later in the conversation he admitted he is taking Vitamin D.

Today, he laughed and said I should keep taking my horse dewormer. I said it was great to hear his sense of humor and that he's feeling good enough to condescend to me since he's sitting there with the ChiCom virus! I laughed really hard and pray he quickly recovers from Omicron.

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You're a good friend. A few of my friends who have battled me on the effectiveness on that crap vaccine, have indeed taken my advice on quercetin, Zinc, D, and black seed/nigella seed oil. Most still advocate for the vaccine, but they're less likely to challenge me to my face at least. Most have also backed off on the horse dewormer nonsense. I think they have because I looked at them like they had three heads and said "do you know how much of the world, and how many people in the United States are taking that?' That Pfizer anti-viral is an inferior two part product with a 3CL protease inhibitor (that has less binding affinity than ivermectin) and an HIV drug called ritonavir, one with a black box warning and interaction with with 32 classes of other medicines. Ivermectin is less than 10 cents a pill. I'm just shocked that so many people have zero ability to have an original thought in their heads. And after 2+ years of this.

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Thinking is painful for people

They want to be told what to think - thus the TV addiction

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I threw my television out 20 years ago. The best thing I did for myself. It’s not called the “boob tube” for nothing.

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If only they knew how much confidence it gives to be able to think and find pleasure in it! Finding solutions to problems that we are told there are no solutions for is immensely satisfying.

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AMEN

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I see your point, and it's a good one. They also don't want to do the work and dig, so they parrot everything they are spoon-fed. That said, I truly love TV and can think.

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Agree with you 100% on everything you wrote here. Thanks.

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where on earth are you getting IVM for 10c a pill ?

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I'm taking black cumin oil b/c of one of your posts

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Is oil better than seed ? I have the seeds

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Your friend is at least willing to communicate and laugh about it. So many I know are covid Karens with no sense of humor or self awareness.

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Only under the precondition that I not discuss things I know and want to share. He doesn't want to hear any of that. He only began joking to come after my "horse dewormer." I let him know I had more but wouldn't offer it to him. In fact, I made sure not to although I've helped several others with IVM.

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Liberals don’t have a sense of humor.

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Have you showed him the hundreds of peer-reviewed studies showing ivm works, such as on bird-group.org and the nih site?

I have a friend who forbade me to talk about the vaccines, she and her husband dutifully got them. A little after the 3rd shot rollout, she said her husband had Bell’s Palsy. No idea why. I just said gosh, sorry.

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He doesn't want to see any of that.

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Worse yet, even if the vaccines did work (they don't), the risk of her and her husband getting anything more than flu symptoms and recovering swimmingly is exceedingly rare. So they risked the side effects in an effort to protect themselves against what is essentially the flu. The risk reward ratio is even higher if they are a young couple. The risk reward ratio is yet still higher for children. Yet, Biden, Big Pharma, and the MSM keep pushing the vaccines as effective and "safe for all."

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I find that so painful, the injuries they get. It's happened to several friends and it feels so bad that it could have been prevented and they'll never know.

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now they're saying a huge uptick in recurring viruses in the vaxx'd like herpes and shingles. this should be interesting as a few more months pass.

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AUGH! I hadn’t heard about that! My mom got Moderna jabs she was a healthy vibrant 84 year old. Swimming almost everyday just some high blood pressure. Well she suffered a stroke, developed a brain tumor and suffered with an anyeuism on her aorta! Well I happened to notice a cold sore on her lip for the past month and it doesn’t seem to want to clear up! AUGH!

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How tragic for the husband & how sad that they can't/won't make the connection.

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Re the Pz anti-viral...if he suddenly has liver and kidney issues that will be another interesting conversation.

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He might want to read this since he’s taking the Pfizer drug. Probably won’t believe it though from what you describe. 🙄

https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/did-pfizer-know-that-paxlovid-will?s=r

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May 4, 2022·edited May 4, 2022

remember, the original AIDS patients were given meds that killed their immune systems and that's when all of the cancers developed and killed them. They were killed by pharma and fauxi. Reading now that many ppl with healthy immunity can clear HIV simply as any virus. FEAR will also cause great problems to immunity. Unfortunately, fear is causing ppl to run directly over the edge of the cliff into the arms of evil pharma. I think the days of staying away from many doctors and hospitals has come to be the norm. Huge incentive to take care of yourself and exercise and lose weight now. If not....the medical system will kill you without batting an eye.

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Many stories like this in U. S. Hope your friend is well soon & beats that ChiCom V!!

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Probably not the 'right thing to do'...but it would be difficult for me to not laugh at him.

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That's sad that he is so brainwashed that he isn't open to the truth.

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Most of them aren't. They're right, they've always been right, they will always be right. You are an ignorant conspiracy theorist that hasn't a clue what you're reading. Even when your degree is in biology and their "degree" is a general high school diploma.

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there arrogance will cost them.

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Perhaps if you sent him a source that he trusts, he would believe the information. I know "Just the news" is unbiased but doesn't matter to some ppl. On 2nd thought, he won't believe any news source as it means admitting he was wrong/mistaken and God forbid if this should happen (from what I have witnessed).

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It is much easier, in many respects, to allow your opinion to influence the data versus the other way around.

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Since it's actually their business to analyze data related to covering their policy holders, I wonder if in the future, they'll give those of us in the Control Group a discount ? :)

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Think they may be lucky to still be in business when they have to make disability and life insurance payouts

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The cruel irony, having to pay out for something they required!!

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founding

Are you suspect of mounting legal liabilities for vax deaths & injuries?

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Yes! Insurance companies are some of the first to know re vax deaths and injuries and they are trying to cut their upcoming losses from suits filed by employees they’ve harmed.

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Yes

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I don’t understand why companies or governments don’t make these things effective immediately

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Agree! September 6, that's ridiculous.

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Looks like September 6 might be the back ot office date, and June 6 is the end of the vax mandate

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Why would they start the back to office in the Fall/beginning of cold and flu season? Wouldn’t the smart thing to do be to get employees in during the summer when the likelihood of catching something is much less?

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Yes, you are correct, and i am definitely referring to back-to-office as of September 6 as ridiculous. That is fully 900 days from the start of "15 days to stop the spread"

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Science

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If only my large biomedical company in the midwest would follow suit and drop its Covid "vaccine" mandate. No, instead I'm required to test weekly for Covid (even though I work at home 100% and never interact with other employees or customers -- how stupid is that?), and if I were to go to campus I need to be "physically distant" from other employees and wear a mask. Why not just put a big yellow star on my shirt, bells on my belt, and require me to yell "unclean! unclean!" when I come near someone?

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because that would be discrimination! But instead it's just ridiculous.

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I felt exactly the same way at my school where I teach. I was the only one forced to go for a Covid test weekly. Today, a good friend of mine who just had her SECOND BOOSTER, who I have been warning to stay away from people for the week after, actually MOVED away from me...I am NOT vaxxed am NOT a SUPERSPREADER and she still doesn't get that there are no asymptomatic spreaders EXCEPT FOR THOSE THAT HAVE HAD THE SHOT.

I give up.

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it really is not your fault you cannot fix stupid!

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Any discrimination on the basis of COVID-19 vaccination status (including testing only the unvaccinated) is illegal in the USA. Here’s why:

http://howtosee2020.com/discrimination/

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We thought my husband's company would never drop their similar requirement, but 3 days after the airlines dropped masks, they finally did. I hope your time is coming soon! Glad you're holding strong

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I’m so glad you don’t have to get the shot but I would advise you to not use the Covid test there has been a lot of bad info on those tests. Maybe do some checking on them? Did you know the inventor said it doesn’t work and he has since died. A young person too! Kinda think it was intentional 😑

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That last paragraph, if only everyone had simply used that policy from the start. Then maybe my 21 y.o. son wouldn't have had to just go get a booster with 2 weeks left in the semester at Boston College in order to remain on campus after his 90-day grace period post-ACTUAL COVID INFECTION despite having been MANDATORILY VACCINATED prior to the beginning of the fall semester. I'm angry this week....

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I remember when colleges were hotbeds of dissent

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I’m sorry Jennie.

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As you should be,but school isn't worth the poison fuaci Nazi injected into our loved ones.By ignoring the facts we enabled pharma/ Fuaci to kill since the 80s .Plain and simple America is in a Coma as usual.Asleep at the wheel,How good is our education if you cant be critical of everything around us? It's our duty to protect our loved ones.

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Nor is it worth being employed by a school mandating. University faculty, administration and staff retiring early and quitting. Very unusual for that to happen. Have never seen this before.

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Same with the medical field. Many nurses and doctors leaving. It's bittersweet because while I'm so happy they're taking a stand, society cannot afford to lose these truly *essential* professionals.

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Yes...I know some nurses who are trying to figure a way out of the system. I also know some great students who are deciding not to pursue medicine because of the mess. To be honest, part of me is happy for them because of the potential brainwashing, the other part of me is sad for them. I was encouraging one to look into naturopathy. Was beyond shocked to learn that Bastyr mandated. I know some NDs who bought the koolaid and had their patients get it. Other NDs I know look at them in disbelief. I was "chatting" with an Australian awhile back...one of their nd schools mandated.

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Yes, I feel relieved when someone I care about who's considering going into medical decides against it, because unless they are really strong, it's going to hurt their health over time as more vaccines get forced on them.

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Wow, that's crazy. I would've thought, by the very nature of their practice, NDs would be against ALL the covid nonsense. Very disheartening. However, I still think your idea of encouraging more med students into that field (and/or functional/holistic medicine) would ultimately be better in the long run.

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I’d be angry too.

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Question is, will the jabs still be required next year? My kiddo is at Emerson and I’m hoping they won’t require yet another booster. But I suspect I will be hoping in vain.

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You could check in with others on the "College Health Policies" group on Facebook or "No College Vaccine Mandates" discussion group on Telegram.

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Anger is the appropriate response! And finding some reasonable way to take action that hurts BC would be, too, if you ever have opportunity.

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You should be angry. I would've tried convincing him to either go virtual or "pause" college until this all blows over. I hope he'll be okay.

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😔🤦‍♀️

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