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Steenroid's avatar

While conservatives don’t approve of the LGBT lifestyle we don’t actively wish them harm. We get upset when we are told how we have to accept and celebrate someone else lifestyle and have it shoved down our throat. And now we find a number of these people have been radicalized to point of murder. At some point the blowback will be something they don’t like.

PostWoke's avatar

My husband and I are gay and conservative and we Iive in a conservative state. Most of our friends are straight and conservative and none of them have ever made us feel unwelcome. Most don't "disapprove" of us but a few do and that's fine because its their God-given right as Americans. However, there is no such thing as the "LGBT" lifestyle you referenced. That is a left-wing delusion that lumps very different people together in an effort to form political alliances and divisions. I concur the delusional alliance created a radicalized group primarily of transexuals, and that the alliance was madness from its inception. I agree with Charlie Kirk that we should all think of ourselves first as children of God instead of defining ourselves by sexual identities. Perhaps then society can heal from the psychic wounds inflicted by the left-wing weaponization of emotional vulnerability.

Steenroid's avatar

And I agree my choice of words was incorrect. I had a cousin that was gay, a cousin that is lesbian and granddaughter who is lesbian. The gay cousin moved to NYC and cut off contact with the family. We heard he died probably of AIDS and was buried in the potters field in NYC. May he RIP. Hope he wasn’t alone when he died.

Brogan12's avatar

So very TRUE! I'm pretty sure most of us have cousins or family members who are gay, or know these people in day to day life. Most are NOT pushing it down the rest of societies throat as if "we must" affirm them or ELSE. I posted over the wkd over on another site the mention of rarely finding any person who transitioned past a certain age of say 30 ish who are violent. Most PRE 30-35 ish vote DEM too. Take Caitlyn Jenner formely Bruce Jenner for example. Think what you wish of him, but he-she is far diff in his "TAKE" on all of what goes on in the land of those who choose a differing lifestyle. Would like to see a study on AGE related violence perpetrated the past say 15 years Seems quite evident to me it's made up almost entirley of those who were BORN past a certain year. As we all know WOKE evolved thru the decades, but was put on steroids post Obama's terms in America. The indoctrination became so intense in K12 into college and accentuated by the legacy media pushing-enabling NARRATIVE!

DividedUpWorld's avatar

Nobody in their right mind who is fair reasonable, and appropriate is ever going to paint a group of people with a broadbrush of hate disdain and wish for harm.

But what people here just don’t want to realize or accept outwardly is that a significant percentage of people in the transgender population think, and act, that they are not only the top of the population pyramid of deserving everything and having to answer to nobody, but they’re the only group of that pyramid, and they think that everybody else is beneath them, scattered and of no concern.

So yes, not everyone who is transgender is a danger, a threat, and a total disruption, but, my percentage guess, at least 33% of them are to a significant degree. So if you walk in a room of transgender people and every third person is looking at you, wondering if you are going to bow or be laid on the floor in a pool of blood, are you going to walk into that room?…

Jim Stewart's avatar

I read a commentary from a substacker who claims right-wing talk radio fuels hate. I pointed out a few of the "Trump is Hitler" remarks from the left along with "Bush is Hitler" remarks from the past. Ah, but that was going on the attack according the stacker. Rules for thee....

DividedUpWorld's avatar

What’s a foundation principle to evil, in my opinion? It is relentless lying, and shameless hypocrisy.

Think about it, when you meet a person who does nothing but lie and misdirect, deflect and projects, and then tells you Word for Word “well I can do whatever the F I want, you better listen to me and do what I tell you, that’s the reality of the life here!“.

These are sociopaths, and sociopaths have two places in society, prisons or graves yards. And if you can’t accept that, well, they’ve already incarcerated as many people they could with January 6, 2021 as example A, and now they’re gonna go the graveyard route, and they probably wouldn’t even allow you to do that if they had a chance to set what happens to your corpse!…

Dumpsters and unmarked mass Graves…

bhs66's avatar

Both these young men were deeply disturbed as more and more information is reported about them, their fantasy world on line and their deep seated biases and anger. Hopefully the general public will eventually understand the troubling nature of transgenderism for a significant portion of its followers and the emerging hatred that’s being fomented. This all leads back to the democrat party that has encouraged, condoned and been harshly critical of anyone who had criticized it. Once again democrats on the wrong side of 80/20 issues and why they should not have a position of political power in this country. I urge all republicans and independents and burnt out democrats to VOTE in the coming elections!

AG Fairfield's avatar

In this case, I believe it all leads back to the need for a lot more information about this family. Let’s just say Mormons, esp fundamentalist ones (FLDS) are playing by a different rule book. If these kids were part of a plan that, say, was aligned with a powerful Mormon [who would likely be a war mongering RINO Republican, by the way] I have no doubt that “tolerance” would not be a problem.

At the same time, to the extent folks like Alex and Megan Kelly have “globbed onto” the all too tidy trans shooter narrative, they are unwittingly playing their part in the distraction. I have no doubt whatsoever that Tyler R is a patsy. We have seen this movie multiple times.

Tom F's avatar

Tyler R was a tool. I think the furry friend is behind it.

bhs66's avatar

And how would he be a patsy? Please explain.

AG Fairfield's avatar

Let this Utah based citizen journalist SubStacker explain & you can decide if there is a credible case that a professional killer was allowed to escape. [having trouble posting the link, will try to do so in a reply post to this post]

bhs66's avatar

So because you’re from Utah you’re an expert on political assassination?? Are you expecting me or anyone to subscribe to read whatever is on that? The kid confessed, his DNA is all over the towel and rifle. Haven’t heard the ballistics report yet though. I’ll stick with he did it until proven otherwise. He may be a “patsy” only in the sense he was goaded into it.

Leslie M's avatar

Can’t read without a trial subscription, which I don’t want. I think probably there were others involved who brainwashed this unstable, disaffected young man into killing Charlie. I doubt he was a “patsy”, given his admissions that he killed him to his online friends.

AG Fairfield's avatar

If you are referring to discord dialogue with the boyfriend it is laughable. That is not how 20 yo speak at all. Matt Walsh does an excellent analysis of the problems with those messages even if I don’t fully agree with his conclusions.

Lady Mariposa's avatar

One of the things that pried me away from the left was realizing how the creators of popular culture have lied to me about my own countrymen. I grew up in a town in northern New Jersey in the orbit of New York City and moved to the city as a young adult woman. I had little experience of most of the rest of the country. Even vacations were usually spent in Massachusetts. I had seen "Deliverance" and the end of "Easy Rider," movie after movie in which much of the rest of the country was filled with racist, sexist, homophobic good-old-boys who were violent.

There was no one huge revelation, but as I got older, travelled a little, and got to know more about the world, I began to realize that it was all a great big lie. It's an important lie to the left. It keeps the cannon fodder in line. Your observation is an important one, although I'm not sure the people who need to hear it will.

Dragonmom's avatar

So true. Born and raised in San Francisco. My husband and I are different races. My best friend of 40 years is black. Most of our friends Asian. When we moved to South Carolina 15 years ago they were horrified and worried. Only my best friend has ever visited and she loves it. Now that we are retired she comes several times a year. In a 2 hour phone call last night with one of my husband's close friends he still spouts such nonsense about where we live and doesn't even realize how ridiculous his comments about SF. He went to a parking lot and there were no cars broken in so he thinks it is a good neighborhood. We don't argue with our friends but even my kids hate going to San Francisco now. It is not the city I grew up in. When my Dad died last year I told my brother and our friends we would no longer visit. If they want to see us they need to come here. I think California people are the most delusional. They really don't see how awful it is, the infrastructure (my friend has replaced three rims in 5 years because of potholes), the cost of living, the crime, the filth and especially the arrogance and self-righteousness. You can have a great life in a lot nicer places. So glad I never have to go there again.

Leslie M's avatar

We moved to south Georgia over six years ago after being lifelong New Englanders. I love it, and I am struck by how little racial discord there is. It might be because we are in the Bible belt, and so many people of different races and ethnicities worship together. I love when the cashier at Walmart tells me to “have a blessed day”. No doubt there was a great deal of racism in the past, but it seems to be largely gone now, at least in my limited experience.

DividedUpWorld's avatar

No, it’s not delusional as much as it is just despicable and an inability to be grounded in reality.

And you can say well that’s delusional, but that’s just refusing to accept the basic tenants of life. Which is what The Left is about.

Abortion, child Abuse, coddling Antisocial agendas, and Antisemitism. Welcome to the 4-A club of hate lust for power and distain for life.

barberstar's avatar

Such a thoughtful, humble note. I'd never thought about those movies as you've described. It's pretty easy to put Southerners in a box, especially us Texans, but we can laugh at ourselves, with pride even. We just shake our heads at people in the Northeast.

Marguerite's avatar

Since you mentioned Deliverance, here’s a fun story. The author tells that he was inspired by a rafting trip where he and his city slicker buddies got stranded in the middle of nowhere. None had any survival skills. They were rescued by the “red-neck” locals who treated them wonderfully. He then imagined how different things would be if the men hadn’t been so nice. Hence, the movie.

Lady Mariposa's avatar

I'm sure each story came about individually. Without conflict, you don't have a plot. Recently, I read about a new movie called Savant. According to what I read, it was based on an article that appeared in Cosmopolitan about a woman who infiltrates extremist groups online. The original article had little information about the groups she infiltrated, but the only one mentioned was an Islamic group. If the trailer is any indication, in the new movie she infiltrates a group of straight, white rednecks. I can understand the desire to keep away from the potential controversy by not having a minority group as the villains. The motivation may be cowardice or a lack of imagination, but the collective result is a demonization of three-quarters of the country.

Marguerite's avatar

I don’t have exact numbers but I remember a study done during the 60’s or early 70’s about TV murderers on the 3 networks. Almost 50% of the fictional murderers were white businessmen, despite the fact that this group of men was actually the male demographic that committed the very least number of murders. We live in an Empire of Lies.

Jacques Uze's avatar

A good point about Robinson and his roommate/partner. I hadn’t thought about that.

Forheremenaremen's avatar

I'm frankly not surprised that Robinson and his roommate have been able to live their lives in peace.

I don't know one conservative who gives a damn what adults do in the privacy of their homes. Where the Trans movement loses me, and others, is by insisting that everyone accept bow to all their demands, i.e.:

-Trans women should be allowed in biological women's locker rooms and bathrooms.

-Trans women should be able to compete on the playing field against biological women.

- Kids under 18, who are confused about their sexual identity, should be always be given 'gender affirming care' that permanently mutilates their body, and drugs that may cause psychosis.

- And if a parent refuses to agree to gender assignment surgery for their child, it's the government's right to mandate it.

The trans movement has become so extreme in their ruthless demands, that they have lost normies who otherwise would support them. And that's on them.

Dena's avatar

The trans movement is by & large a social construct ( to borrow a leftist phrase). Talk to boomers & gen x - it was a pretty rare occurrence. Once the communists took more control of schools & colleges they found new ways to subvert & damage our country, through our kids. Most young people who think they’re trans are not. The cultural obsession with affirming their confusion instead of helping them through a rough phase that came about because of a fair amount of grooming/ propaganda is a sin. The threat of cancellation or being called a name ending in ism showed the cowardice of our culture. The lies by the medical experts of suicide risk manipulated parents into agreeing to treatments that will only end in disaster. So many young lives & minds ruined before they have a chance to live a normal existence. Plenty of blame to go around - I hope we’ve learned a lesson.

DividedUpWorld's avatar

You know, people keep saying that transgender issues are narcissism, but when you have a level of narcissism that has absolute disregard for anyone else’s needs or thoughts, that transcends narcissism and becomes sociopathy. Transgender’s don’t want a spotlight, they want abject rule, and narcissist don’t want abject rule, they want the accolades.

You folks really need to learn up on personality disorders, and fast…

Decaf's avatar

Only one person has ever told me they’d seen the anger go right to left. In my own experience it’s always and often gone left to right.

DividedUpWorld's avatar

I forward this comment with an air of some humility in that I know I come across as a jerk, but, a lot of your readers/commenters are invariably sycophants . I’ve come here and have re-established a subscription to be able to comment, and I appreciate your tolerating me because at times I know I am just absolutely profane with some of my language, but, I never kiss ass.

The one thing I hope you’ll remember in your travels, is stay true to inherently yourself and invariably it will show you as good a parent and spouse and a respected and appreciated member of your social circle as one can be. If you’re doing that, you’re way ahead of the game, sir!

I will finish with my usual advice : marginalize and ostracize evil until it flees or attacks, either way, watch it pathetically sail away from the shoreline or dutifully bury it deep in the Earth. Good luck, folks.

Doug Bedell's avatar

You are a valuable asset in the fight for truth. I’m not being a sycophant. It’s just important that people doing the right thing need constant encouragement. The forces aligned against them are powerful, sick and relentless.

Free in Florida's avatar

Doug, we don’t have to caveat that we’re not racists or whatever. And we also don’t have to caveat that we aren’t sycophants because someone else puts that out there. We know exactly what you’re saying about Alex being “a valuable asset in the fight for truth” and you’re exactly right.

We can hold that opinion and still take Alex to task when we think he’s wrong. That’s one thing we all like about this site. Sycophants don’t call people to task and poor Alex knows most of us have taken him through the wringer at one point or another - even if it’s only via 200 likes for someone who has.

Fred's avatar

Speaking of flu shots - you won’t see this advertised at your local pharmacies.

“A team of U.S. federal government researchers is warning of a massively elevated risk of stroke among people who have received “vaccines” for the flu and Covid within close proximity.”

https://prd-tsn-main-api.s3.amazonaws.com/article/8e27368f-c320-4d8a-91af-851c9b701d06.pdf

Eric S.'s avatar

I know AmEx probably isn't playing fair in this billing situation, but if you have American Express, surely you have another card or a debit card you can use to ease this headache for Mr. Berenson. Just switch to another card so he can focus on bringing us more excellent journalism and not dealing with billing issues.

Jennifer L's avatar

Heads up from this subscriber: your emails have started going to my “promotions” tab in gmail instead of my inbox. Despite you being marked as “important.” I'd be curious to know if this is another systemic attempt to soften your voice or a simple blip on my personal radar (which I hope to have corrected by reprogramming my gmail /relabeling you as important and a known contact, etc. accordingly.)

Mom O'Scots's avatar

I've had this problem for years with Alex and the Babylon Bee. It's been better of late but it's still inconsistent.

Flatulus Maximus's avatar

Interesting. I haven't noticed this very much, except if the sender is quite prolific in a short period of time. I think I found 1 of Alex's emails in my spam folder, and it was during a period of intense activity. Vigilant Fox often sends several blasts per day, and some of his get filtered as spam. I have email through my cable provider's Internet service, and I use Outlook on my laptop to download mail from their server. I check both junk mail folders to be safe, so I don't miss anything I want to see. I wonder if avoiding Google and Yahoo mail helps at all. (I also have a Gmail account, but I almost never use it for anything I care about.)

CMCM's avatar

For what it's worth, I subscribe to several substacks and email notifications have always been sporadic, never regular. Routinely I just use my browser to quickly go to my various subscription pages that way.

Jennifer L's avatar

thank you for this!! I’ll calm down with the conspiracies ;-)

Holly's avatar

From this day forward I will not be polite by silencing my voice. Telling the truth is not hate.

Brogan12's avatar

I believe Charlies death struck that nerve in MANY!

susanb's avatar

I saw what I thought was a good post this morning. It showed an eagle flying and stated, 'The day we understand that the right wing and the left wing are part of the same bird, only then can the eagle fly and America be great.'

I truly want to have hope for this nation, but I have my doubts. I've never seen so much hate in my lifetime. Very troubling.

Rare Earth's avatar

If someone or something had motive to kill you it would a pharma entity…