I was sad that an old friend had cut me off. Then he suggested we get together - without apologizing or even acknowledging what he had done. I'm not sad anymore.
Just remember that he's the exact type of person who would force you into a one-way box car train, and think he was doing good, without so much as a second thought.
Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Democratic voters would favor a government policy requiring that citizens remain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine.
Nearly half (48%) of Democratic voters think federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications.
Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine.
47% of Democrats favor a government tracking program for those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine.
How far are Democrats willing to go in punishing the unvaccinated? Twenty-nine percent (29%) of Democratic voters would support temporarily removing parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine.
President Biden’s strongest supporters are most likely to endorse the harshest punishments against those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine. Among voters who have a Very Favorable impression of Biden, 51% are in favor of government putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities,” and 54% favor imposing fines or prison sentences on vaccine critics.
And most likely these are the same people who believe that violence against their political opponents is justified. The legacy media, while calling everyone on the Right Nazis, are creating the exact environment to behave like Brown Shirts themselves, and be cheered for it.
Luigi🤔…it’s my understanding that his family has money. Money earned running nursing homes. Nursing home industry ain’t much better than the insurance industry.
And it is surely a cowardly act to step out of the shadows and shoot someone in the back.
I don’t know who actually “wrote” the summary of the polling. Click the link at the bottom of my comment and perhaps you can find them…or email Rasmussen and inform them of their error😶
I'd add to Alex: think of all the "friends" (virtual) you've made on here. Everyone on here knows we won't agree with you on everything, but as long as you are honest and willing to listen to more sources we won't cut you off (let alone a boxcar anywhere!). You aren't a toady and someone cutting you off like that was never your friend.
So very sad that friends end relationships because of a disagreement over some government policy. Worse that some seem to have developed a new set of morals that allow such a loss.
I think forgiveness helps you more than the other person because the forgiveness helps you release your anger and resentment and go on with you life. You no longer carry that burden. It no longer has power over you. So, don't hold your breath waiting for apologies or acknowledgement. That leaves your happiness in the offenders' hands. So take back your power/peace and live free.
Alex, please think about what Pamela writes here. You don't need this person in your life, but for yourself, do forgive him in your heart. You don't need to tell him you forgive him. If you can't do it now, try later. I'm working to forgive a friend of mine, who has cut me off. I haven't managed yet, but I don't intend to stop trying.
I have forgiven my former friends, for they truly know not what they do. However, my forgiveness does not mean that I am willing to give them the value of my friendship again. Forgiving them doesn't mean liking who they are. You can forgive them in your heart, and still not reward them with your friendship.
I agree with the poster above this. You can't have forgiveness without apologies and acknowledgment. Absent those two, you can MOVE ON. There are some exceptions, like a mentally damaged individual who lacks capacity, for instance. And sure, you can let go of anger. But I'm not in the camp of getting hurt again by the person who hurts you. Nope, nada, never again.
Forgiving someone doesn't mean putting yourself in a place to be hurt again. It is within yourself; you don't even tell the person you are forgiving. (Unless you want to.) You forgive in order to force your anger and hurt out of your heart. The offending party doesn't have to know anything about it. I am not talking about a public action but a private one.
I've dealt with a lot of terrifically abused children (now adults). So it's a complicated journey, and "forgiveness" is not the obvious road. I have empathy for those who struggle with forgiveness and I understand the concept and freedom it can bring. But it's dismissive to some people and we must be sensitive to that too.
In AA they tell us that in a situation like this, rather than get a resentment, we should pray for the person who has pissed us off and try to get rid of our own anger to regain our peace of mind.
Being that I am someone who reacted just like Alex in the same situation with family and friends, it was not easy for me to pray for those idiots who didn't want me in their lives because CVD, but I finally did it because the only person who knew or cared about the issues was me!
It was like pissing on my leg and expecting the other person to feel it. Or for me to take the poison and expecting my ex-friend to drop dead. Ultimately it was ME who suffered while the friends and family who had ghosted me didn't give a rat's ass.
At this point in my life, I don't need anymore of this stupid drama from people who get their information and opinions from Oprah and the View like some of my relatives.
I have so many wonderful people I've "met" here on substack and elsewhere- people like Alex and many others who write here and comment.
I haven't got time for the pain and happiness is a choice.
I wasn’t there. There is probably no way I would ever be in a position to judge your actions as right or wrong. I do trust your judgement; and I know how it must feel, loosing a friend, under those circumstances. Hard to move on, sometimes.
The mark of a true friend is whether they stand by you during the worst of times. This person failed that test spectacularly. Behavior is a language, and he has told you exactly who he is.
That has been my attitude, I had some crazy awakenings. I would have never imagined cutting off a friend because of a disgreement. Fortunately my closest friend has a sense of humor and after a difficult period I cornered her and we ended up laughing about it.
We’ve all been there I think. I lost two close friendships, one that had lasted over thirty years. We traveled together, celebrated birthdays, were both very involved with our show horses. She took issue with my saying COVID was unlikely to have a bad outcome unless someone was elderly with co morbidities. She shot back that a baby was as likely to die as an elderly person. That was it. A couple of years ago we did have a nice interchange. I’d sent a birthday gift that she acknowledged and we had a few months of correspondence. That was all. The other friendship was also close. A fellow Catholic and I was one of the people in her “inner circle”. But someone claimed that I and several others had created a parody site of her online magazine. That was it. Even though it was a complete lie. She was a COVIDIOT, someone who literally didn’t leave her house for two years. Sadly once she and her husband emerged with their weakened immune systems they both got COVID, she was hospitalized and he died. I tried to reach her through mutual friends to send condolences. No dice.
Ironically she still sends me her online magazine and information about pilgrimages they sponsor.
I didn’t even expect an apology or explanation. Just a chance to reconnect. The worst fatalities of COVID were friendships, families destroyed and businesses shuttered.
Sometimes the wound left behind from a rift is so complex that it’s really tough to reconnect. I “lost”several close connections (including a sister) in the past 3 years that didn’t all directly deal with the corona. However, the chaos of these past few years made all other problems more toxic. So much distance and division and all for a lie, as you say.
It's still happening. Only a month ago I recieved a "Dear John" text from a girl I was seeing. She had to part ways with me because, after reflecting (probably talking to her woke friends), she couldn't 'vibe' with someone who found Donald Trump funny. Apparently he's such a serious a threat to freedom and democracy that we shouldn't even be laughing at his antics.
100% with you on the merits but not the process. I don't think you should have tweeted your exchange before you saw him. If you'd seen him and he'd still been terrible, then at that point, I'd have no issue with it. I also just don't think holding on to anger against a close friend is going to make you happy--you seem like a really nice person, and anger tends to eat at really nice people after a while. My two cents, anyway, and I am very sorry that this close friend treated you in this way.
I agree Justin. We all lost friends. heck, I almost lost my sister to it all. While she did not say she could not “maintain an active relationship” with me, it's how she acted for several years. As things chilled out, I just let it go. No apology needed. I think it was a little petty to jump the gone and post on socials, especially Alex, when you have pretty high visibility. It's likely many in your circle knew who you were talking about even with the redactions. I get the motive and the feelings as they are strong...I just don't agree with the very public response.
Maybe. I just can’t figure out why else Alex would go nuclear and post the exchange for his millions of followers for the great offense of…asking him to meet for a beer. At least for men, that’s usually a precursor to an apology and repairing a friendship. Had Alex accepted the invitation, he might very well have gotten the apology he wants. I just don’t understand what was gained here other than social media engagement.
I like that he did that. I think it should have come with an invitation to clear the air by debating the subject publicly, on Twitter, where everyone could see it and judge for themselves.
What a wretched experience. This is what is so difficult for me to come to terms with: These people will NEVER get it. The sanctimonious arrogance over the the virus, the "vaccine", the group rules for behavior and I'll even throw in the Trump derangement syndrome - all of it is so out of whack with normal common sense. It is like being in a really bad sci fi movie. Where did these people come from and what have they done with the normal ones?
reading this was chilling as I had a very similar experience- but with a much better outcome. I had reached out to a close friend and top Dr in my state-( yes, in my State, as they were a one time president of the board of physicians and directly worked with our Governor at the time) about my intense concerns with the vaccine. We had multiple debates over it for months right after the roll out -all peaceful but all very divided. I desperately asked for help from them when my daughter was about to get expelled from a private high school for not having vaccine card or vaccine. The school wanted a MD or NP to sign an exemption letter -as I was saying she had anxiety over getting vaccinated as not enough data was out about the long term side effects. He would not help and I understood. At the 11th hour I found a Dr who would, and somehow it worked the school accepted the letter but with major conditions( 4 tests a week, etc). The physician friend and I stayed friendly over the next several years but much more distant. I JUST saw them at a recent function , a very large party. They came up to me and said immediately.". I've been thinking about you- I want you to know, you were right about the covid vaccine" and then they went on to say all the data that supported why they felt that way. I barely was listening because " you were right" kept playing in my head-That was enough for me...I kind of teared up and said" thank you"-- that was all I needed to hear. Your posts were everything to me during that time and I will be endlessly grateful to you for that, because-you were right. I look forward to more stories on you being right in the near future.
I was able to maintain friendships, although I’m certain behind my back they thought I was a lunatic. The real crazies were the readers of the LA Times and the Washington Post. In the comments regarding an article I commented on, 99 percent either wanted me to die or lashed out in some other vile or hateful way. Insane.
I lost 3 friends, 2 childhood friends, and 1 acquaintance. 1 friend hurt greatly, and is in fact Covid vaccine injured.
My question to him and when I realized he was no longer welcome around me or my family, “knowing now after you have Guillain Barre from the vaccines, would you do it all over again?” His response, “for science, yes”.
And that officially ended my relationship with the best man in my wedding.
So sorry for your loss. My 30 year old son came down with ATP, a blood disorder that his doctor told him was due to the Covid vaccine. My son was still considering a booster.And I don't know how to reach him without destroying our relationship.Breaks my heart to see what's happening to our children and young people.
I don't think there is any apologizing from them - for anything. Similar, but the same:
My sister in law disinvited us to the family Thanksgiving dinner in 2016 - we had committed the sin of voting for Trump. Hadn't seen her until the past May, when my mother in law died and we had to meet up for the funeral and take care of the house situation. It was as if nothing had happened. I gritted my teeth, played nice and couldn't wait to get away from them. I think there is no daylight between the issue of voting for Trump and not taking the vaccine. They go hand in hand.
Of course, same SIL jumped on every Covid vaccine allowed. I just heard through the grapevine that her oldest son, about 30, collapsed out of the blue. He didn't hurt himself in the fall, but all I could think was "myocarditis". She brushed it off as to him biking too hard that day :)
Never forget, never forgive. I was cursed and condemned for merely asking questions. I was told by countless sheeple that I needed to follow the science. I refused, I never caved. To this day, I have not forgotten nor have I forgiven. That will never change!
WE were the strong ones, Brave enough to face the hate that we received. Be proud that we were not SHEEP who followed everyone else! I am proud of myself and my grown children who didn’t buy into the Plandemic scare. Nor did they “mask up” their young children, and then THEY were being confronted with hateful comments and Righteousness. It certainly created a rift between my other family members, being my 6 other siblings. So sad. No apologies given to this day, but I’ve forgiven them because my 88 yr-old mother wanted it. It made her sad.
I lost an important friendship because my friend was upset with something I did and rather than come to me, took the advice of someone else who didn’t know me and ended our relationship. Years later we “ran into each other” and she told me how wrong she had been. It was wonderful to get an apology, but the damage was done. Although I was able to forgive, I was no longer able to recapture the trust I had and the relationship was never repaired. It is so painful to lose a close friend. I’m sorry for your loss, but it is really his loss. God bless you for remaining true to your convictions!
I have a couple of friends like that. Losing an old friend, a high school "sister", and someone I could tell my darkest secrets to is shocking. Oh well. There is a mental illness that seems to be engulfing a large segment of the population. It is best to just go forward with the friends you still have and make new ones from others who have been dropped by their "best friends". It is frustrating to have a lack of apologies.
There is a group I belong to that would not let me come to their dinners during COVID because I refused to take the jab. And they said, "Oh, you can just give us a negative covid test." But I refused to be "tested" to see if I was allowed to join them at their club events, since I was also a club member.
I have been allowed back for maybe a little more than a year. But, NO ONE has ever apologized. And it just is not fair.
My curiosity is driving me nuts. Did some of them ever realise I was NOT a danger to them? Did any of them ever figure out what a psyop the whole thing was? Did they learn how destructive masks were, especially for young children? Did they ever question the vaccines?
NOT ONE of them has ever given me an ounce of credit for my beliefs.
The most interesting part of this is a man over 40 had a friend before Covid. I don’t have any friends, definitely none after 40, so it’s hard to relate but I think Covid just got us all to where we would eventually end up a lot faster. Alex is better off for not having this person in his life.
There are a lot of people who have experienced the same thing over the last 5 years about more than covid. We find out these people were never really the friend we thought they were. We are better off without them.
True. It’s happened regarding many things at this point. All those threats I’ve received of “if we talk about politics our friendship will end”? At this point I’m ready for them to end. Obviously, they weren’t friendships.
Creeping evil.
Just remember that he's the exact type of person who would force you into a one-way box car train, and think he was doing good, without so much as a second thought.
And never forget…
Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Democratic voters would favor a government policy requiring that citizens remain confined to their homes at all times, except for emergencies, if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine.
Nearly half (48%) of Democratic voters think federal and state governments should be able to fine or imprison individuals who publicly question the efficacy of the existing COVID-19 vaccines on social media, television, radio, or in online or digital publications.
Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine.
47% of Democrats favor a government tracking program for those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine.
How far are Democrats willing to go in punishing the unvaccinated? Twenty-nine percent (29%) of Democratic voters would support temporarily removing parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine.
President Biden’s strongest supporters are most likely to endorse the harshest punishments against those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine. Among voters who have a Very Favorable impression of Biden, 51% are in favor of government putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities,” and 54% favor imposing fines or prison sentences on vaccine critics.
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_against_unvaccinated
And most likely these are the same people who believe that violence against their political opponents is justified. The legacy media, while calling everyone on the Right Nazis, are creating the exact environment to behave like Brown Shirts themselves, and be cheered for it.
And they have raised their kids to think that murderers like Luigi, et al. are heroic and to be celebrated.
Luigi🤔…it’s my understanding that his family has money. Money earned running nursing homes. Nursing home industry ain’t much better than the insurance industry.
And it is surely a cowardly act to step out of the shadows and shoot someone in the back.
Indeed.
Yeah, and still WE are said to be the "authoritarians" and "fascists."
Sounds like the Dems REALLY agree with exactly what the CCP did.
That is disgusting.
They're "Democrat voters", not "Democratic voters".
I don’t know who actually “wrote” the summary of the polling. Click the link at the bottom of my comment and perhaps you can find them…or email Rasmussen and inform them of their error😶
I'd add to Alex: think of all the "friends" (virtual) you've made on here. Everyone on here knows we won't agree with you on everything, but as long as you are honest and willing to listen to more sources we won't cut you off (let alone a boxcar anywhere!). You aren't a toady and someone cutting you off like that was never your friend.
💯
So very sad that friends end relationships because of a disagreement over some government policy. Worse that some seem to have developed a new set of morals that allow such a loss.
You can’t have forgiveness without apologies and acknowledgment. Otherwise the same thing will happen next time. And no lessons will be learned.
The Scamdemic was the ultimate Turing test.
95% failed terrifically.
And I shudder to think of how close they came to eliminating the 5% who passed the test.
I think forgiveness helps you more than the other person because the forgiveness helps you release your anger and resentment and go on with you life. You no longer carry that burden. It no longer has power over you. So, don't hold your breath waiting for apologies or acknowledgement. That leaves your happiness in the offenders' hands. So take back your power/peace and live free.
Alex, please think about what Pamela writes here. You don't need this person in your life, but for yourself, do forgive him in your heart. You don't need to tell him you forgive him. If you can't do it now, try later. I'm working to forgive a friend of mine, who has cut me off. I haven't managed yet, but I don't intend to stop trying.
I have forgiven my former friends, for they truly know not what they do. However, my forgiveness does not mean that I am willing to give them the value of my friendship again. Forgiving them doesn't mean liking who they are. You can forgive them in your heart, and still not reward them with your friendship.
THIS. Yes.
I agree. No need to reward with friendship.
I'll continue to punish them with my friendship until they agree with me.
It's definitely not easy. I am also working on this. All I can say is keep on keeping on. You've got company.
I agree with the poster above this. You can't have forgiveness without apologies and acknowledgment. Absent those two, you can MOVE ON. There are some exceptions, like a mentally damaged individual who lacks capacity, for instance. And sure, you can let go of anger. But I'm not in the camp of getting hurt again by the person who hurts you. Nope, nada, never again.
Forgiving someone doesn't mean putting yourself in a place to be hurt again. It is within yourself; you don't even tell the person you are forgiving. (Unless you want to.) You forgive in order to force your anger and hurt out of your heart. The offending party doesn't have to know anything about it. I am not talking about a public action but a private one.
I've dealt with a lot of terrifically abused children (now adults). So it's a complicated journey, and "forgiveness" is not the obvious road. I have empathy for those who struggle with forgiveness and I understand the concept and freedom it can bring. But it's dismissive to some people and we must be sensitive to that too.
Absolutely! I just wanted to clarify that forgiving does not mean welcoming the person back or having anything to do with that person.
In AA they tell us that in a situation like this, rather than get a resentment, we should pray for the person who has pissed us off and try to get rid of our own anger to regain our peace of mind.
Being that I am someone who reacted just like Alex in the same situation with family and friends, it was not easy for me to pray for those idiots who didn't want me in their lives because CVD, but I finally did it because the only person who knew or cared about the issues was me!
It was like pissing on my leg and expecting the other person to feel it. Or for me to take the poison and expecting my ex-friend to drop dead. Ultimately it was ME who suffered while the friends and family who had ghosted me didn't give a rat's ass.
At this point in my life, I don't need anymore of this stupid drama from people who get their information and opinions from Oprah and the View like some of my relatives.
I have so many wonderful people I've "met" here on substack and elsewhere- people like Alex and many others who write here and comment.
I haven't got time for the pain and happiness is a choice.
Indeed!!!!
I agree. Sadly this has likely caused Alex more angst than it did his looser friend, not friend.
Unconditional forgiveness is for God to grant.
I'm a mere human. I believe in forgiveness, but not without contrition.
Live free -- yes, but don't you still feel compelled to challenge them once in awhile?
I wasn’t there. There is probably no way I would ever be in a position to judge your actions as right or wrong. I do trust your judgement; and I know how it must feel, loosing a friend, under those circumstances. Hard to move on, sometimes.
The mark of a true friend is whether they stand by you during the worst of times. This person failed that test spectacularly. Behavior is a language, and he has told you exactly who he is.
That has been my attitude, I had some crazy awakenings. I would have never imagined cutting off a friend because of a disgreement. Fortunately my closest friend has a sense of humor and after a difficult period I cornered her and we ended up laughing about it.
"Behavior is a language." I really like that and will borrow it. Thanks.
It's not mine - John Delony says it all the time (and for all I know, he probably cribbed it from somewhere else) - but it is a great phrase.
We’ve all been there I think. I lost two close friendships, one that had lasted over thirty years. We traveled together, celebrated birthdays, were both very involved with our show horses. She took issue with my saying COVID was unlikely to have a bad outcome unless someone was elderly with co morbidities. She shot back that a baby was as likely to die as an elderly person. That was it. A couple of years ago we did have a nice interchange. I’d sent a birthday gift that she acknowledged and we had a few months of correspondence. That was all. The other friendship was also close. A fellow Catholic and I was one of the people in her “inner circle”. But someone claimed that I and several others had created a parody site of her online magazine. That was it. Even though it was a complete lie. She was a COVIDIOT, someone who literally didn’t leave her house for two years. Sadly once she and her husband emerged with their weakened immune systems they both got COVID, she was hospitalized and he died. I tried to reach her through mutual friends to send condolences. No dice.
Ironically she still sends me her online magazine and information about pilgrimages they sponsor.
I didn’t even expect an apology or explanation. Just a chance to reconnect. The worst fatalities of COVID were friendships, families destroyed and businesses shuttered.
FOR A LIE.
Sometimes the wound left behind from a rift is so complex that it’s really tough to reconnect. I “lost”several close connections (including a sister) in the past 3 years that didn’t all directly deal with the corona. However, the chaos of these past few years made all other problems more toxic. So much distance and division and all for a lie, as you say.
Well put...it wasn't just the COVID stuff...but...the COVID stuff allowed other unresolved things to come to light. I was there for sure.
For MANY lies.
It's still happening. Only a month ago I recieved a "Dear John" text from a girl I was seeing. She had to part ways with me because, after reflecting (probably talking to her woke friends), she couldn't 'vibe' with someone who found Donald Trump funny. Apparently he's such a serious a threat to freedom and democracy that we shouldn't even be laughing at his antics.
100% with you on the merits but not the process. I don't think you should have tweeted your exchange before you saw him. If you'd seen him and he'd still been terrible, then at that point, I'd have no issue with it. I also just don't think holding on to anger against a close friend is going to make you happy--you seem like a really nice person, and anger tends to eat at really nice people after a while. My two cents, anyway, and I am very sorry that this close friend treated you in this way.
No, someone like that will just jump at something else to ghost you over. That is the way now a days.
I agree; not a fan of the tweet.
Wasn’t a fan of the tweet either.
I agree Justin. We all lost friends. heck, I almost lost my sister to it all. While she did not say she could not “maintain an active relationship” with me, it's how she acted for several years. As things chilled out, I just let it go. No apology needed. I think it was a little petty to jump the gone and post on socials, especially Alex, when you have pretty high visibility. It's likely many in your circle knew who you were talking about even with the redactions. I get the motive and the feelings as they are strong...I just don't agree with the very public response.
Agree. Seems juvenile to post the exchange before hearing the guy out. I guess it stirs up some drama to drive engagement to your twitter?
Yikes Calvin! That was a pretty dramatic response in itself…. Not needed IMO.
Maybe. I just can’t figure out why else Alex would go nuclear and post the exchange for his millions of followers for the great offense of…asking him to meet for a beer. At least for men, that’s usually a precursor to an apology and repairing a friendship. Had Alex accepted the invitation, he might very well have gotten the apology he wants. I just don’t understand what was gained here other than social media engagement.
I like that he did that. I think it should have come with an invitation to clear the air by debating the subject publicly, on Twitter, where everyone could see it and judge for themselves.
What a wretched experience. This is what is so difficult for me to come to terms with: These people will NEVER get it. The sanctimonious arrogance over the the virus, the "vaccine", the group rules for behavior and I'll even throw in the Trump derangement syndrome - all of it is so out of whack with normal common sense. It is like being in a really bad sci fi movie. Where did these people come from and what have they done with the normal ones?
“Invasion of the Body Snatchers” vibe. We are living with the pod people.
reading this was chilling as I had a very similar experience- but with a much better outcome. I had reached out to a close friend and top Dr in my state-( yes, in my State, as they were a one time president of the board of physicians and directly worked with our Governor at the time) about my intense concerns with the vaccine. We had multiple debates over it for months right after the roll out -all peaceful but all very divided. I desperately asked for help from them when my daughter was about to get expelled from a private high school for not having vaccine card or vaccine. The school wanted a MD or NP to sign an exemption letter -as I was saying she had anxiety over getting vaccinated as not enough data was out about the long term side effects. He would not help and I understood. At the 11th hour I found a Dr who would, and somehow it worked the school accepted the letter but with major conditions( 4 tests a week, etc). The physician friend and I stayed friendly over the next several years but much more distant. I JUST saw them at a recent function , a very large party. They came up to me and said immediately.". I've been thinking about you- I want you to know, you were right about the covid vaccine" and then they went on to say all the data that supported why they felt that way. I barely was listening because " you were right" kept playing in my head-That was enough for me...I kind of teared up and said" thank you"-- that was all I needed to hear. Your posts were everything to me during that time and I will be endlessly grateful to you for that, because-you were right. I look forward to more stories on you being right in the near future.
Amazing! Ive known no one who has had that occur to them with past PRO wuh flu measures with friends or family. Good to know the RARE occasion occurs!
Some of the rest of us would love to hear this as well. Still waiting here….
3 of the most gratifying words in the English language. Glad you got them--that's a doctor I'd like to have.
As Jimmy Dore has said many a time…his friends will never forgive him for being right about Covid.
And neither will yours Alex.
I was able to maintain friendships, although I’m certain behind my back they thought I was a lunatic. The real crazies were the readers of the LA Times and the Washington Post. In the comments regarding an article I commented on, 99 percent either wanted me to die or lashed out in some other vile or hateful way. Insane.
I lost 3 friends, 2 childhood friends, and 1 acquaintance. 1 friend hurt greatly, and is in fact Covid vaccine injured.
My question to him and when I realized he was no longer welcome around me or my family, “knowing now after you have Guillain Barre from the vaccines, would you do it all over again?” His response, “for science, yes”.
And that officially ended my relationship with the best man in my wedding.
So sorry for your loss. My 30 year old son came down with ATP, a blood disorder that his doctor told him was due to the Covid vaccine. My son was still considering a booster.And I don't know how to reach him without destroying our relationship.Breaks my heart to see what's happening to our children and young people.
The brainwashing of people who KNOW they have been vax injured and are still glad they got the vax is off the charts.
Damn that is rough!
"For science, yes."
"Lie back and think of Science!"
Your friend is silly.
Speaks volumes. Best man at my wedding- same in 2016. So tragic for my husband to process losing a buddy of decades.
I don't think there is any apologizing from them - for anything. Similar, but the same:
My sister in law disinvited us to the family Thanksgiving dinner in 2016 - we had committed the sin of voting for Trump. Hadn't seen her until the past May, when my mother in law died and we had to meet up for the funeral and take care of the house situation. It was as if nothing had happened. I gritted my teeth, played nice and couldn't wait to get away from them. I think there is no daylight between the issue of voting for Trump and not taking the vaccine. They go hand in hand.
Of course, same SIL jumped on every Covid vaccine allowed. I just heard through the grapevine that her oldest son, about 30, collapsed out of the blue. He didn't hurt himself in the fall, but all I could think was "myocarditis". She brushed it off as to him biking too hard that day :)
No apology, no friendship. You did the right thing.
Never forget, never forgive. I was cursed and condemned for merely asking questions. I was told by countless sheeple that I needed to follow the science. I refused, I never caved. To this day, I have not forgotten nor have I forgiven. That will never change!
WE were the strong ones, Brave enough to face the hate that we received. Be proud that we were not SHEEP who followed everyone else! I am proud of myself and my grown children who didn’t buy into the Plandemic scare. Nor did they “mask up” their young children, and then THEY were being confronted with hateful comments and Righteousness. It certainly created a rift between my other family members, being my 6 other siblings. So sad. No apologies given to this day, but I’ve forgiven them because my 88 yr-old mother wanted it. It made her sad.
Oh the masking!! The horrible STUPID masks- only good for blocking spit.
Same.
100% agreed. Some things are, literally, unforgivable.
I lost an important friendship because my friend was upset with something I did and rather than come to me, took the advice of someone else who didn’t know me and ended our relationship. Years later we “ran into each other” and she told me how wrong she had been. It was wonderful to get an apology, but the damage was done. Although I was able to forgive, I was no longer able to recapture the trust I had and the relationship was never repaired. It is so painful to lose a close friend. I’m sorry for your loss, but it is really his loss. God bless you for remaining true to your convictions!
I have a couple of friends like that. Losing an old friend, a high school "sister", and someone I could tell my darkest secrets to is shocking. Oh well. There is a mental illness that seems to be engulfing a large segment of the population. It is best to just go forward with the friends you still have and make new ones from others who have been dropped by their "best friends". It is frustrating to have a lack of apologies.
There is a group I belong to that would not let me come to their dinners during COVID because I refused to take the jab. And they said, "Oh, you can just give us a negative covid test." But I refused to be "tested" to see if I was allowed to join them at their club events, since I was also a club member.
I have been allowed back for maybe a little more than a year. But, NO ONE has ever apologized. And it just is not fair.
My curiosity is driving me nuts. Did some of them ever realise I was NOT a danger to them? Did any of them ever figure out what a psyop the whole thing was? Did they learn how destructive masks were, especially for young children? Did they ever question the vaccines?
NOT ONE of them has ever given me an ounce of credit for my beliefs.
The most interesting part of this is a man over 40 had a friend before Covid. I don’t have any friends, definitely none after 40, so it’s hard to relate but I think Covid just got us all to where we would eventually end up a lot faster. Alex is better off for not having this person in his life.
There are a lot of people who have experienced the same thing over the last 5 years about more than covid. We find out these people were never really the friend we thought they were. We are better off without them.
True. It’s happened regarding many things at this point. All those threats I’ve received of “if we talk about politics our friendship will end”? At this point I’m ready for them to end. Obviously, they weren’t friendships.
You’re probably right but I’m still sad. 40 years of friendship destroyed.