Wednesday’s "ANTI-ICE" sniper was a pothead, no other way to say it. Sometime around the start of Covid his life just... stopped. Five years later he was on a rooftop, shooting at federal agents.
Two in the last month THAT WE KNOW OF. Because toxicology reports are rarely released even when collected, we don't know if Kirk's assassin was a user (like his roommate/lover was) or not.
You've confused correlation with causation in the first point. Patients are put on antipsychotics AFTER they become psychotic. On the second, you've fallen for "proximate cause bias". Yes, THC usually has a short-term sedating effect. But the long-term effects predominate in the long term.
Correlation is the first step in establishing causation. If we remove the antipsychotic piece, between social media images of violence mixed with antidepressants use, we can still see the resulting violence —exhibited by the many school shoutings we’ve seen
Seeing that he was schizophrenic, I’d think an antipsychotic was involved though.
As far as that study on long term use, that too can be seen as correlation and causation as well. We’d have to compare it to the other studies that show the long term benefits of THC
"What makes this new study more compelling than previous studies is that the researchers followed the same individuals for over 50 years from a young age to adulthood. This is precisely what one needs to solve the chicken-or-egg riddle with respect to cannabis and violence: Just look and see which one happens first."
I appreciated the Cambridge study! It was good, but it’s worth noting that it was 411 boys from 1950s London. That’s a narrow sample. Even within it, 4 out of 5 persistent cannabis users (80%) never showed violent outcomes. The baseline for violence was near zero, so a small bump looks massive when expressed as ‘7x greater odds.’
Meanwhile, far larger studies link antidepressants and SSRIs to aggression and suicidality which maps directly onto the school shooting epidemic. That’s a scale problem: tens of millions are prescribed these drugs.
THC may not be harmless, but when we zoom out, the pharmaceutical and programming variables have far more explanatory power than weed alone.
The Cannabis today is FAR more potent so 7 x greater odds (which is HUGE) was prob an underestimate of today's product. I have a different perspective on SSRIs. I think they are often prescribed to early-stage psychotic patients inappropriately. It's what front line doctors use and it's very difficult to see a psychiatrist who would make a better diagnosis and treatment on an outpatient basis.
Thank you, Alex, for staying vigilant on the marijuana issue! From the days of hired assassins in the ME, this drug numbs users and allows them to carry out lethal violence while disassociating!
Please try your best to get this factual information to any Print ,Online or TV OUTLET . We all need to continue to speak the TRUTH. I have hope if this information keeps appearing it could change some minds.
I always send your articles about MARIJUANA everywhere I can.
THANK YOU ALEX for continuing to dig into the truth.
About 30+ years ago Daniel Amen, MD, started using SPECT brain scans to show the connection between damaged areas of the organ and dysfunctional behaviors.
Look up scans of heavy pot users. Same as any other drug like meth or cocaine. Pockmarked with areas of necrotic tissue and diminished functioning/reasoning.
Thank you for continuing to place a light on this issue even with "everything else" going on in the world. As a mom of two college age kids, the impact this is having on society cannot be understated. Thankfully both of mine have listened to their parents and to this point actively avoided using pot, vapes, gummies...etc. The number of GROWN ass women I've heard using gummies is mind-blowing. If we can't model how to manage our emotions as adults without drugs, what exactly do they expect from their children?!?!?
He moved back after THC became available on practically every street corner when the governor failed to close the hemp THC loophole and this session even vetoed a bill which would have.
could be, but he definitely was in psychosis, which could simply have been from his schizophrenia. Schizophrenics --untreated--don't need marijuana to have psychosis which often turns violent. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I believe the question is: do people with mental health struggles (before their first psychotic episode) use marijuana to self medicate and then experience psychosis? In other words, were they going to develop psychosis eventually whether or not they used cannabis? Did the marijuana actually cause the psychosis? Are there studies that prove people without Bipolar 1 or schizophrenia become psychotic after using MJ?
Have to ADD the ingrained and allowed DEI Marxist education process the past 40 years in the public school systems, but especially in past 20! Marxists KNOW you must get too followers when they are YOUNG! What is crazy is just how entrenched it is being allowed still. Just where is McMahon on this. Didn't Trump sign and EO to END all neo Marxist DEI affiliated protocols in schools! Throw in media owned by Marxism narrative and voila....
I think Uncle Joe Robinhood Biden was soft on people who use cannabis and dealers of cannabis this was wrong. I want to say that the tracking APP of ICE AGENTS is wrong and deadly and the media and politicians should be in favor of ICE AGENTS not against. I hope Trump doesn't go soft on cannabis and weaken the laws this would be bad for society.
Mr. Berenson, one thing you need to remember if you already do not know is that especially in these days, most people aren’t just pot smokers, they indulge in other substances, they can even just be using prescription drugs, rationalizing it’s legal but abusing them.
So I know you have your negative feelings about marijuana, as do I from what I’ve seen in healthcare, but, don’t assume that’s the only thing. At the end of the day, one of the predictors of violence is the abuse of substances, but the bigger ones are a history of violence, certain psychiatric diagnoses, and I think equally is repetitively threatening violence, I know is a sure sign it is likely to happen.
Hope you have a nice weekend, hope your fast next week is uneventful, be safe and well.
Keep telling it Alex. THC and the hemp products have taken our once bright 19 yr. old on scholarship to a chronic relapser, 5 treatments, therapy, anti-social behavior, so many legal charges. We had to drive him to a homeless shelter finally.
I did tell him. He didn’t listen. No one is. But this is not “your daddy’s ditch weed”, young brains are very susceptible, and to y’all who keep defending it- he’s all yours now. Good luck. Our hearts and wallets are broken.
Probably not that simple, but increased voices of warning- piecing together the cause-effect will hopefully deter some, induce increased study/ attention. I agree the sites need scrutiny for license violations.
Perhaps potency, age, genetics has something to do with it and the influence of technology, i.e. social media. You wouldn't be able to swing a dead cat without hitting a schizophrenic would be homicidal maniac if just being a habitual THC user was the only factor.
well, i think that is the point that is being made - that nobody understands what exactly causes these psychotic breaks, nor is in a big hurry to study it.
there is a very, very clear link to habitual marijuana use. it's not a 1:1 correlation, so there are some other factors at play, likely the ones you mention.
imo, it should be pulled off the shelves entirely until this little, tiny detail that it currently creates a small army of homicidal maniacs is properly understood and assessed.
Cant say I agree with substances being available at gas stations with very little oversight in some places, but many could argue that alcohol shouldn't be sold for health reasons and drunk driving deaths a year arent terribly far off from gun homicides in recent years. Should be regulated and held to a potency scrutiny certainly, but the many should never suffer for the few in most cases.
well, i suppose the difference may be that alcohol has existed in western society for thousands of years, and its effects are largely studied, understood, and accepted.
we don't know the full scope of the mass-legalization of marijuana because it's still in progress. more states, more kids every year.
what is the percentage that get a full psychotic break every year? are kids starting earlier now that it's more accessible? does that affect these outcomes?
i would argue that this particular risk may be acceptable, but we don't have informed consent at the moment because nobody seems to have the information or be in a hurry to collect it.
Psychoactive plants, and the use of them, have existed in society for thousands of years. My belief is that government attempts to regulate or ban them only make things worse. (Like what they did when they tried to regulate opium.) Just curious, when did the hybridization of marijuana start? Could it have been around the same time governments ruled that possession of a small amount should be treated as a misdemeanor, and not a felony? The pot that's available now is NOT the pot of the 60s and 70s.
i do largely agree with you except to say there is a difference between existing on the periphery of society and being fully incorporated into it. we drink wine at church!
but, yeah - all the arguments of it being natural or GMO are all good questions. would it be better if people smoked the original wild strains or whatever? probably! acceptable? possibly!
it won't be long before the proliferation of self-driving cars largely takes care of drunk driving.
still need to get the facial recognition in the phone to stop us from drunk dialing & drunk texting people so hopefully someone starts working on that, too.
You wrote a book on it, Tell Your Children. The younger an individual starts using, and the greater amount of the substance taken, along with frequency of use is a recipe for problems. Said it before and will again, substance use history, prescribed medications included, should be investigated and made known as is done with other background information when a violent crime is committed.
Two in the last month THAT WE KNOW OF. Because toxicology reports are rarely released even when collected, we don't know if Kirk's assassin was a user (like his roommate/lover was) or not.
MKUltra programming from social media images + Antidepressants + Antipsychotics are more of an issue than THC. Here’s how all of these can create transgenders: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-reality-of-programming
THC isn’t know to cause anger—rather the opposite.
You've confused correlation with causation in the first point. Patients are put on antipsychotics AFTER they become psychotic. On the second, you've fallen for "proximate cause bias". Yes, THC usually has a short-term sedating effect. But the long-term effects predominate in the long term.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-new-brain/201603/marijuana-use-may-increase-violent-behavior?msockid=34dc45fb387a6ec632e853a839f46faf
Correlation is the first step in establishing causation. If we remove the antipsychotic piece, between social media images of violence mixed with antidepressants use, we can still see the resulting violence —exhibited by the many school shoutings we’ve seen
Seeing that he was schizophrenic, I’d think an antipsychotic was involved though.
As far as that study on long term use, that too can be seen as correlation and causation as well. We’d have to compare it to the other studies that show the long term benefits of THC
That was discussed in the article:
"What makes this new study more compelling than previous studies is that the researchers followed the same individuals for over 50 years from a young age to adulthood. This is precisely what one needs to solve the chicken-or-egg riddle with respect to cannabis and violence: Just look and see which one happens first."
The conclusion? Cannabis use then violence.
I appreciated the Cambridge study! It was good, but it’s worth noting that it was 411 boys from 1950s London. That’s a narrow sample. Even within it, 4 out of 5 persistent cannabis users (80%) never showed violent outcomes. The baseline for violence was near zero, so a small bump looks massive when expressed as ‘7x greater odds.’
Meanwhile, far larger studies link antidepressants and SSRIs to aggression and suicidality which maps directly onto the school shooting epidemic. That’s a scale problem: tens of millions are prescribed these drugs.
THC may not be harmless, but when we zoom out, the pharmaceutical and programming variables have far more explanatory power than weed alone.
The Cannabis today is FAR more potent so 7 x greater odds (which is HUGE) was prob an underestimate of today's product. I have a different perspective on SSRIs. I think they are often prescribed to early-stage psychotic patients inappropriately. It's what front line doctors use and it's very difficult to see a psychiatrist who would make a better diagnosis and treatment on an outpatient basis.
Thank you, Alex, for staying vigilant on the marijuana issue! From the days of hired assassins in the ME, this drug numbs users and allows them to carry out lethal violence while disassociating!
Please try your best to get this factual information to any Print ,Online or TV OUTLET . We all need to continue to speak the TRUTH. I have hope if this information keeps appearing it could change some minds.
I always send your articles about MARIJUANA everywhere I can.
THANK YOU ALEX for continuing to dig into the truth.
…get Tucker on line one…?
About 30+ years ago Daniel Amen, MD, started using SPECT brain scans to show the connection between damaged areas of the organ and dysfunctional behaviors.
Look up scans of heavy pot users. Same as any other drug like meth or cocaine. Pockmarked with areas of necrotic tissue and diminished functioning/reasoning.
Keep up the good fight. It’s seems like your yelling into a wind where no one hears you but we all have to keep trying.
Thank you for continuing to place a light on this issue even with "everything else" going on in the world. As a mom of two college age kids, the impact this is having on society cannot be understated. Thankfully both of mine have listened to their parents and to this point actively avoided using pot, vapes, gummies...etc. The number of GROWN ass women I've heard using gummies is mind-blowing. If we can't model how to manage our emotions as adults without drugs, what exactly do they expect from their children?!?!?
This psycho had moved out of Texas after his felony marijuana conviction. Thank you, Governor Abbott, for making Texas a sanctuary state for THC now.
Not really sure how to interpret your comment, is Texas unuser-friendly for marijuana or is it a sanctuary state where people can hide out and smoke?
He moved back after THC became available on practically every street corner when the governor failed to close the hemp THC loophole and this session even vetoed a bill which would have.
I would also put a lot of money on a bet that the guy who stabbed that young woman in Charlotte was high on weed. Prove me wrong…,,
could be, but he definitely was in psychosis, which could simply have been from his schizophrenia. Schizophrenics --untreated--don't need marijuana to have psychosis which often turns violent. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
But there is a proven link between marijuana and psychosis.
I believe the question is: do people with mental health struggles (before their first psychotic episode) use marijuana to self medicate and then experience psychosis? In other words, were they going to develop psychosis eventually whether or not they used cannabis? Did the marijuana actually cause the psychosis? Are there studies that prove people without Bipolar 1 or schizophrenia become psychotic after using MJ?
I have had this opinion that cannabis plus social media are frankly destroying the psychological health of youth and it has become a powder keg.
Have to ADD the ingrained and allowed DEI Marxist education process the past 40 years in the public school systems, but especially in past 20! Marxists KNOW you must get too followers when they are YOUNG! What is crazy is just how entrenched it is being allowed still. Just where is McMahon on this. Didn't Trump sign and EO to END all neo Marxist DEI affiliated protocols in schools! Throw in media owned by Marxism narrative and voila....
I think Uncle Joe Robinhood Biden was soft on people who use cannabis and dealers of cannabis this was wrong. I want to say that the tracking APP of ICE AGENTS is wrong and deadly and the media and politicians should be in favor of ICE AGENTS not against. I hope Trump doesn't go soft on cannabis and weaken the laws this would be bad for society.
Mr. Berenson, one thing you need to remember if you already do not know is that especially in these days, most people aren’t just pot smokers, they indulge in other substances, they can even just be using prescription drugs, rationalizing it’s legal but abusing them.
So I know you have your negative feelings about marijuana, as do I from what I’ve seen in healthcare, but, don’t assume that’s the only thing. At the end of the day, one of the predictors of violence is the abuse of substances, but the bigger ones are a history of violence, certain psychiatric diagnoses, and I think equally is repetitively threatening violence, I know is a sure sign it is likely to happen.
Hope you have a nice weekend, hope your fast next week is uneventful, be safe and well.
Keep telling it Alex. THC and the hemp products have taken our once bright 19 yr. old on scholarship to a chronic relapser, 5 treatments, therapy, anti-social behavior, so many legal charges. We had to drive him to a homeless shelter finally.
I did tell him. He didn’t listen. No one is. But this is not “your daddy’s ditch weed”, young brains are very susceptible, and to y’all who keep defending it- he’s all yours now. Good luck. Our hearts and wallets are broken.
well if reddit + marijuana = homicidal shooter, i am ok with taking away either reddit or marijuana or both
Let’s throw in ChatGBT while we’re at it. As I said in a previous thread, Alex needs to find time to look into AI induced psychosis.
Probably not that simple, but increased voices of warning- piecing together the cause-effect will hopefully deter some, induce increased study/ attention. I agree the sites need scrutiny for license violations.
if it saves one illegal alien from getting murdered in a deportation van is it worth it? if it saves 100? 1000?
i'm being a bit facetious, but i would love it if rfk jr decided to study this & properly assess it
Perhaps potency, age, genetics has something to do with it and the influence of technology, i.e. social media. You wouldn't be able to swing a dead cat without hitting a schizophrenic would be homicidal maniac if just being a habitual THC user was the only factor.
well, i think that is the point that is being made - that nobody understands what exactly causes these psychotic breaks, nor is in a big hurry to study it.
there is a very, very clear link to habitual marijuana use. it's not a 1:1 correlation, so there are some other factors at play, likely the ones you mention.
imo, it should be pulled off the shelves entirely until this little, tiny detail that it currently creates a small army of homicidal maniacs is properly understood and assessed.
Sorry to say I think that cat is out of the bag and highly unlikely to be forced back in. (pulled off the shelves until...)
oh, it wasn't a prediction - it was just my personal opinion
Cant say I agree with substances being available at gas stations with very little oversight in some places, but many could argue that alcohol shouldn't be sold for health reasons and drunk driving deaths a year arent terribly far off from gun homicides in recent years. Should be regulated and held to a potency scrutiny certainly, but the many should never suffer for the few in most cases.
well, i suppose the difference may be that alcohol has existed in western society for thousands of years, and its effects are largely studied, understood, and accepted.
we don't know the full scope of the mass-legalization of marijuana because it's still in progress. more states, more kids every year.
what is the percentage that get a full psychotic break every year? are kids starting earlier now that it's more accessible? does that affect these outcomes?
i would argue that this particular risk may be acceptable, but we don't have informed consent at the moment because nobody seems to have the information or be in a hurry to collect it.
I’m having a lot of trouble remembering the era of mass shootings by alcoholics.
Psychoactive plants, and the use of them, have existed in society for thousands of years. My belief is that government attempts to regulate or ban them only make things worse. (Like what they did when they tried to regulate opium.) Just curious, when did the hybridization of marijuana start? Could it have been around the same time governments ruled that possession of a small amount should be treated as a misdemeanor, and not a felony? The pot that's available now is NOT the pot of the 60s and 70s.
i do largely agree with you except to say there is a difference between existing on the periphery of society and being fully incorporated into it. we drink wine at church!
but, yeah - all the arguments of it being natural or GMO are all good questions. would it be better if people smoked the original wild strains or whatever? probably! acceptable? possibly!
Interesting article... Check it out, if you haven't already seen it. https://brownstone.org/articles/methadone-maintenance-ignited-americas-opioid-crisis/
Well, couldn’t those statistics be confounded if it’s driving while high either on alcohol or drugs
it won't be long before the proliferation of self-driving cars largely takes care of drunk driving.
still need to get the facial recognition in the phone to stop us from drunk dialing & drunk texting people so hopefully someone starts working on that, too.
You are jumping to illogical conclusions.
You wrote a book on it, Tell Your Children. The younger an individual starts using, and the greater amount of the substance taken, along with frequency of use is a recipe for problems. Said it before and will again, substance use history, prescribed medications included, should be investigated and made known as is done with other background information when a violent crime is committed.