Eugyppius, a must-read Team Reality Stack, explains why the media and public health bureaucrats can’t quit Long Covid despite its obvious absurdity and along the way dismantles a study I’d been meaning to dismantle. (Eugyppius, who is an academic by day, is at his best as a theoretician of Covid - trying to explain the philosophy behind lockdowns, vaccine mandates and the rest - though lately he has gotten a little stuck on the idiocies of the German Health Minister.)
Well I listen to Victor Davis Hanson and he is the farthest thing from a Kook and he talks about long Covid and his 3 month battle. My wife isn’t a kook and she had terrible long Covid issues. Covid is very brutal on over active or under active immune systems. Perhaps everything isn’t black and white with science? Maybe that’s where things should’ve began to avoid these disease as politics issues?
While eugyppius also, almost begrudgingly, admits that many people suffer from long Covid. You both disrespect those who do by your rhetoric. Two things can be true, 1. Some people have lasting impact from this man made pathogen, and 2. The Covid cabal will pivot to exploit this for even more government grift, even without regard to actually benefitting those victims. Just like I imagine that we will see in the future a government push to compensate vax victims from the mandates THEY created.
I keep wondering about "long covid" as a way to claim disability. It doesn't matter if disability insurance payments aren't a way to get rich, but it's a way to open the door to other government-paid "goodies."
Even as the CDC has "revised" its covid "guidance," I'm seeing more masks Out There.
I’m as committed to team reality as anyone on earth. I have the battle scars from Berkeley CA to prove it, and am also suffering from long covid. I’ve got crazy heart rhythm, fatigue and brain fog, and those have persisted since February. I was calling BS on long covid too. It really losses me off as the community is deriving great joy from dancing on my long covid grave.
I’m on an flccc.net long covid protocol and things seem to be improving, but went backwards a bit this weekend.
I've had covid symptoms since late 2020. Some have subsided completely, others have improved, but not completely. I get that anybody can have an invisible disease with no symptoms, but for me it was all physical, shingles like rash covering large areas persisting for more than a year, etc. I don't care if certain people don't believe it's a thing and I live my life the same way I did before covid. I don't tell anybody irl about it. Through it all, I've been able to train heavy and eat healthy. I'm staying positive that all my symptoms will subside eventually, but the idea that serious people think long covid doesn't exist is just silly. Doesn't hurt my feelings, just makes otherwise informed people look a bit like quacks.
I bet Alex doesn’t believe in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Lyme disease lol.
I suffer from vax injuries and run in a lot of long covid groups. Some of these people can’t get out of bed. There is some auto immune issues or viral persistence issues.
I do agree the “long covid grift” where some people blames covid for anything minor after a covid exposure.
Of course long covid is where it's going. :/ Aggravating as he**. My spouse was hospitalized with Covid; was severely ill. Even we don't believe in it. Not saying it never happens but it is a convenient catch-all for lots of issues, including covid vaccine injuries.
I had the original strain March 2021 and was down pretty hard for about 3 weeks. Honestly, between getting older (66) and that extended recovery, I'm not sure Covid didn't leave a mark. Hard to say on an individual basis but I do agree the Branch Covidians will ride this mule for all it's worth.
Something in the virus caused me massive unintentional weight loss for 18 months now. I’ve lost 65 lbs and am basically skin and bones and no health issues prior. Many hours of doctor visits and many co-pays later revealed absolutely nothing. To those who don’t suffer it’s shoved aside… nothing to see here. I would tread lightly on assumptions that there is no such thing or the hysterical people trying to find an answer are loons. Do you not think a BIOWEAPON released on the public would cause health problems? Do you think you are “safe” because you recovered from infection and seem to be fine and healthy? Better think again.
Experimental DNA drug shots and experimental rapidly mutating lab virus results in unknown harmful consequences. Just the beginning, especially for those multi jabbed.
This is brilliant! I've been saying the same thing. "Long COVID" doesn't even make sense.
You're either sick or you're not. We have never heard of "Long Flu" or hear people say, "I'm suffering from a Long Cold." They might say, "I'm having trouble getting over this cold." But they eventually do.
None of what's been pushed about COVID has made any sense. From the Chinese people falling over in the streets, to the "need" for a vaccine, and all other therapeutic methods ignored.
Everything has played out in a strange, kind of surreal, choreographed way. Nothing like this has ever happened in my lifetime. And definitely NOT for some disease that magically jumped from bats to people. I never believed that. All of the timing was too close to the election. There were states preparing for lockdowns before any lockdowns were even being considered here in the US. This was during the time that Fauci was telling people that masks don't work, and nobody has anything to worry about.
What I've learned from this whole scenario.
1. The FDA and the CDC are political organizations. They do not follow science, they do as they are directed by bureaucrats.
2. The people behind the push for the vaccines have known all along the risks involved, and purposely pushed them anyway.
3. Possible therapeutics were banned, misrepresented in the media, and reputable doctors were smeared when they brought these facts up.
4. This is NEVER going to end. With the onset of Monkeypox, and now Nipah virus being "found" in China, we can see where this is going.
5. The leftists and globalists need the never ending "emergency" to keep their draconian controls in place to steer people away from free societies.
Personally, I will NEVER AGAIN follow the advice of the FDA or CDC. From what I can see they are hell bent on breaking their own rules. The FDA already broke their own rules to approve the Flu vaccine each year. Every year the formula is changed, and every year there is no 3-stage trial performed. They just rubber stamp it and off it goes.
The power being collected by political factions all over the world, primarily in NATO countries, is scary. Because we see what they are doing with it in The Netherlands, Canada, and now Ireland. They are demonizing nitrogen. After listening for 30+ years about how CO2 is going to kill us. Now they are switching to nitrogen/fertilizer. Why? To create the necessary food shortages to further their goals. Without nitrogen fertilizers farmers will not be able to yield normal crops. The governments of these countries are purposely limiting the use of nitrogen – to limit the food supply. All of this when we are supposed to be recovering from COVID?
We’re in uncharted territory right now, and it’s time that people realize that those placed in positions of power, those who many trusted, are NOT working for the good of all people.
The Communist Covidians are the same group of UN Agenda 2030 soldiers. With C19 losing the ability to force people to comply then 'Climate change' will be pulled out of their bag of tricks. People in California are now being 'trained' by WEF leader Gavin Newsom to do without electricity on certain days. Water and food rationing is now starting as well. "You will own nothing and you will be happy". Not going to be easy in other parts of the US that are fully armed and ready.
RESPIRATORY THERAPIST here, over 40 years. I caught Covid before it became famous in Sept. oct. and Nov. of ---2019. You heard it right. 2019. Got treated for bronchitis; 2 antibiotics, 3 sets of steroids, breathing treatment all day and night; just could not take a deep breath, coughing and tired a lot. Was certain I had Pneumonia!! But I know what secrets stay in the hospitals so I did not volunteer as another guiny pig! No I do not smoke, drink, drugs or have underlying illnesses. I worked through it for 11 weeks; slept every chance I got. And then i got well. Nothing lingering that I know of. Caught it again May of '21. Little nasal pressure low fever 100.3 and congestion on friday gone by Sunday night. Did lose taste and smell 13 days. Here I am 1.5 years later happy and healthy. And hell F'n NO I did not take the injection of the experimental drug. Thank God I don't have those spikey little floating in my body.
I have two autoimmune conditions that started three weeks after my first (and only) influenza infection. I live with the consequences every day but consider myself lucky as I have less horrible autoimmune conditions that many others. We have no idea how long the viral proteins persist in the body, especially the spike protein. We have no idea what kind of mischief they might stir up in the immune system. I would also point out that many doctors on Team Reality believe long covid is a real phenomenon (Marek, Kory) and are trying to help people with persistent symptoms. They also claim that the viral infection (like the jabs) can re-activate latent viral infections such as Epstein-Barr.
And, of course, we cannot ignore the reality that many people have had multiple mRNA injections to top off their viral infection(s).
It's not long covid we're dealing with, it's long metabolic deficiency. People with healthy immune systems handle this virus easily. Those who are unhealthy before infection have worse symptoms and longer recovery. The medical industrial complex doesn't want us healthy -- degrades their profits.
The corona cultists are still (like two days ago) stuck on "but one million died" and cannot hear a word, so if the media pushes this next craziness they will be sure to park their cars there. My sister has been telling me her biggest fear is "long covid". It's ridiculous how they're building it up into A Thing. (I had it mildly, and two friends have it more seriously, but it could be all the shots they took. And in each case it was fatigue.)
On the one hand, it's an escaped bioweapon. And on the other hand, its effects are exaggerated? The argument doesn't make sense.
I had long Covid. So did my spouse. So did many (most?) people I know, vaxxed or not.
For me it was a bad flu, not the worst I've ever had, but the body aches were real. The cough lasted 2-3 weeks. Overall not huge deal, mostly nuisance, lungs are fine now, but these spike proteins are buggers and they stick around.
His bete noire, German Health Minister Karl Lauterbach, is a case study in mendacity, incompetence and unaccountability. Like many European "health" ministers, he is himself rather sickly. To study Lauterbach is to study everything that is broken in government interference with public health.
Let Lauterbach become known to Germans as Quisling was known to Norwegians, but with far more blood on his hands.
Alex, generally I like you, but what is your beef with Long Covid? I got Covid in March of 2020 and had chest pain, shortness of breath and decreased lung capacity for a year.
It’s mostly middle-aged women affected by long Covid, this is no different than any other autoimmune disorder. And it’s not bc they’re just “whiners” as is often implied- there’s a scientific explanation for it.
Ask Victor Davis Hanson if Long COVID is a figment of his imagination. Now, it is possible that it’s the vaccines that are causing the long COVID and not Covid itself.
I was a medical-legal consultant 25-30 years ago when a couple of attorneys asked me to evaluate some of their clients who were claiming damages due to silicone breast implants. At the time, someone had published a study (later refuted) that linked implants to systemic lupus erythematosus and other autoimmune diseases. I kid you not. These women would come in with every symptom under the sun written on 1-2 pages of lined yellow legal pads. Symptoms included fatigue, anxiety, sweating, headache, stress, being fired from job, joint pain, back pain, abdominal cramps, diarrhea, constipation, car battery died, dog ate kids homework, etc. While the last two might be a stretch you get the idea. I don't doubt that some people might have some effects after their bout of COVID, I expect a jump in disability filings in the next year claiming inability to work due to Long COVID.
As Eugyppius notes, there's a huge difference between sequelae from viral infection (side effects from a severe bout with the virus) and "Long Covid". The former is the result of damage to the body and immune system caused by a one-time fight with Covid. Imagine you were one of the unfortunates who was put on a ventilator early on and somehow managed to survive. I'm sure life is not the same for such a person. That's different than these hypochondriacs claiming long COVID.
Hmmm, I thought when we were all distracted by that FBI raid on Mar-A-Lago, the longestttttttttt two weeks of our lives had OFFICIALLY ENDED???? Aren't we on to Monkeypox and sudden adult death syndrome?????
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Yeah I think there are many issues with consistency here. For vax skeptics. if long haul vaccination syndrome is caused by the spike protein, it's not unreasonable to think SARS-CoV-2 itself could produce a uniquely bad post-viral syndrome. For vax pushing covid fascists, if you're going to lump every correlated event post-infection into "long covid" (which they absolutely do) you'd better also take the same ultra conservative approach to tallying vaccine injury.
This is all further reason to ensure best possible immune health with Vitamin D etc. as the first line of defense.
One of the earliest outbreaks of Covid in North America occurred in Park City, Utah, in early 2020 - presumably brought by tourists returning from Europe. Shortly thereafter I got a ride home in a shuttle from an auto service center. The driver was describing a party he'd attended in Park City the night before. He said it was a real rave. Four days later I developed a severe sore throat and then chills, major chills; turned thermostat up to 80 degrees, wore a heavy sweater and two pairs of ski socks at night. Lasted two weeks. A month later my body was under attack - brain fog (couldn't read and my wife took me to ER), rapid heart rate, shortness of breath, intolerance of heat (could not go outside), intolerance of exertion and no stamina - after being a runner for 40 years (who craved the endorphins), and profuse sweating with minimal exercise, Our family doctor tried to get me in to so-called Covid "Clinics" in the Intermountain area - with no luck. It turns out, reasonably, that they were, and still are, research centers. In the past four months I've been to six specialists, had numerous blood draws, scans, needles, and electrical charges. The good news is - they can't find anything; the bad news is - they can't find anything. At least I'm on the right side of the grass.
Alex respectfully the point Eugyppius was making is that long Covid is a lame
excuse the regulatory captured agencies and Governments continue to make to offer solutions
to a problem that is overstated. To date not one of the Governments "solutions" have worked as we all know.
Long Covid is very real albeit in the minority of COVID recovered patients. Here is the science that proves it beyond any doubt that viral loads persist in COVID recovered patients.
Conclusions: The extended presence of viral RNA in feces, but not in respiratory samples, along with the association of fecal viral RNA shedding with GI symptoms suggest that SARS-CoV-2 infects the GI tract and that this infection can be prolonged in a subset of individuals with COVID-19.
To summarize, this study provides a unique analysis of fecal shedding dynamics among people with mild to moderate COVID-19.1 These findings have potential implications for clinical interventions, community surveillance, and modeling predictions of future outbreaks. Further studies of this kind are warranted as it remains unclear how the emergence and spread of new variants will influence fecal shedding dynamics at the population level and how these changes may impact public health efforts moving forward.
The same is valid for urine:
" Of note, in five patients (23%), viral RNA was present in urine but no longer detectable in nasopharyngeal swab at the time of enrollment in the study. Among them, a patient with a constantly negative nasopharyngeal swab for 30 days but with a high urine viral load after 41 day after the onset of symptoms is of particular interest."
It is nothing less than hilarious and hideous to me what people write here.
So, what are you folks going to do if it turns out that Liz Cheney wins her reelection campaign in Wyoming tomorrow, and somehow she wins with more votes than there are people in Wyoming…
You’re going do exactly what you did in 2020 then 2021 and so far this year, nothing!
And these sociopathic scumbags are ruthless, they depend on your apathy indifference and uncaring! And you will willingly eagerly and relentlessly cooperate by sticking your freedom independence autonomy and choice so far up your butts that you choke on it in the back of your mouths…
The biggest takeaway from Covid (besides never “trust the experts” ) is that everyone has to be diligent about their own health. There’s no magic bullet to save any of us.
I'm interested to know if there's ever been a study on "long covid' that included unvaccinated individuals. I've seen a couple studies done, and questioned those doing the studies what they specifically DIDN'T included unvaccinated persons. Makes me wonder if any unvaccinated even GET it. Like multiple Covid infections.......I know of nobody who was unvaccinated and got and recovered from Covid that has been reinfected. I know lots of people who've been vaccinated 2,3 and 4 times that seem to get Covid like I get indigestion after eating spicy food .... It's weird.
Long Covid is a huge load of you know what. It’s called vaccine induced destruction of your immune system. Asymptomatic infection is another lie. PCR tests another lie. F......g lies to get fear to obliterate critical thinking.
alex, you and eugyppius have taken a position on this issue as idiotic as the idiots you rightfully criticize. I will grant you there is no such thing as 'long' Covid (plus all other synonyms), there is only Covid (itself a fuzzy construct). It would be much more helpful if you would engage with true systems biologists and impartial front line clinicians who are dealing with the real and truthful impacts of SARS2 infection and vaccination before pronouncing your determination of what people are dealing with. These impacts are quite real and rest on three biological circumstances: 1) direct viral toxicity with variable duration 2) biological response damage 3) activated or reactivated co-infections or biotoxin damage
Why has the level of trust in healthcare in the United States dropped to a level equivalent to trust with politicians and the media?
Covid.
If there is an opportunity to record history in the future, it will show that physicians were beyond complicit and corrupt in letting millions die if not from the virus, from complications from the vaccine.
When I read in future times of a physician being murdered by a disgruntled patient who was abandoned and mistreated, I won’t even think about it.
To colleagues out there, if you’ve given the impression that you believe that healthcare is popular easy and convenient, and in the end don’t really give a shit about your patients , you better constantly be looking behind you, it’s only a matter of time before someone finally says, “fuck this asshole, he/she doesn’t give a shit, so neither do I!“…
I don’t condone violence, but, I don’t grieve it either…
I don't know whether "stuck" is the right word. He's exposing the fool, the idiot, the despotic tyrant. That requires more than just a one-off. Because that tyrannical despot isn't just some worthless pundit; he's Germany's f'n Health Minister.
We don't get "stuck" shoving facts up Fauci's ass and down his throat. It's all richly deserved. Ditto that Health Minister POS human being.
The thing I most appreciate Eugyppius is he occasionally gives vent publicly to the things I only say in private to my spouse or the few like-minded individuals that I know. Things like this.
"We live just in the stupidest timeline.
There is no expressing how boundlessly dumb all of this is. We are effectively sanctioning ourselves here in Germany, after two years of totally voluntary and unnecessary self-inflicted economic destruction from lockdowns."
I try to use logical thought processes w/accurate information when trying persuade others to my viewpoint. He supplies this in abundance. But "boundlessly dumb" and "stupidest timeline possible" is what I really want to say.
Glad to see Eugyppius getting some acknowledgement. Every article of his is worth reading. He's one of the brightest lights in this corner of the internet.
Anyone doubting long that COVID exists should read the July 7 issue of the CELL article entitled "Mild respiratory COVID can cause multi-lineage neural cell and myelin dysregulation."
Cheryl B. Thank you for directing me to health food store, I appreciate it very much. I do pool exercises at our community pool. I go days when it is not busy, got the times down pat. I also have a pilates machine at home and the Inversion table. Best of health to you.
Susan G, if you are speaking to me, unfortunately I live in Ontario,Canada. I had an excellent family doctor for 30 years, he retired 5 years ago, I was so lucky to be referred to this younger doctor. As with everything new I was a little nervous, but he turned out to be a peach, a gem, so very involved, takes his time, refers to specialists if necessary, he even asks if you want to see one, and who you prefer.. I hope and pray you find someone like that. Oh another thing he does not ask about the jab or push it, actually doesn't even mention it. Wishing you good health and finding the best doctor, that cares out there. Best of luck.
Quote: "Over a year after first testing positive for COVID-19, Brandon Sutter is still dealing with long COVID symptoms that threaten to end the 33-year-old forward’s NHL career.
It’s a desperate situation for Sutter with few answers available. In that type of situation, it’s understandable that Sutter would grasp for any source of hope he can find. According to an interview with Postmedia’s Ben Kuzma, Sutter’s current source of hope is ivermectin. “Canadian doctors are not allowed to prescribe it for COVID and I had to get it myself, but it helps remove the COVID spike protein,” said Sutter to Kuzma. “It works. And in the U.S., it’s everywhere and it’s helping a lot of people and there is zero risk... “I still can’t do any cardio,” said Sutter to Kuzma. “I tried working out again in March and April to kind of get going again. But I’d have a really bad day and it would just crush me — I just couldn’t do it — because of a lack of oxygen and just depleting myself. The lingering effect is an inability to breathe normally and properly.”"
This is a professional athlete who is losing millions of dollars and can't even work out due to long COVID. Let's not gaslight him and tell him he's imagining his problems. It's real, pretending it's not real at this point is ridiculous.
The scale of the problem should not be dismissed before it is properly studied. We know that the first version of COVID caused clotting disorders. This is not rocket science, it is clear the original strains caused serious harm to some people.
Now, I don't pretend to know how bad or how serious an issue it is. But pretending that it is no issue at all amounts to gaslighting.
Our 44 year daughter who lives with us is covid positive. She is staying clear of us and after two days she is feeling fine. She is unvaccinated by choice. I'm immuno suppressed from a liver transplant 24 years ago. I got the two injections and took forever to feel like I did before. It would be great if we could have truth rather than propaganda. It all needs to end. Please think carefully when November comes around and vote these Marxists out.
Well I listen to Victor Davis Hanson and he is the farthest thing from a Kook and he talks about long Covid and his 3 month battle. My wife isn’t a kook and she had terrible long Covid issues. Covid is very brutal on over active or under active immune systems. Perhaps everything isn’t black and white with science? Maybe that’s where things should’ve began to avoid these disease as politics issues?
I liked his reasoning. However, I just can't handle signing up for another subscription or mailing list to read the whole article.
While eugyppius also, almost begrudgingly, admits that many people suffer from long Covid. You both disrespect those who do by your rhetoric. Two things can be true, 1. Some people have lasting impact from this man made pathogen, and 2. The Covid cabal will pivot to exploit this for even more government grift, even without regard to actually benefitting those victims. Just like I imagine that we will see in the future a government push to compensate vax victims from the mandates THEY created.
I keep wondering about "long covid" as a way to claim disability. It doesn't matter if disability insurance payments aren't a way to get rich, but it's a way to open the door to other government-paid "goodies."
Even as the CDC has "revised" its covid "guidance," I'm seeing more masks Out There.
Some people LOVE being "sick."
The reason he's "stuck" on the idiocies of the German health minister is that he has to live under them.
I’m as committed to team reality as anyone on earth. I have the battle scars from Berkeley CA to prove it, and am also suffering from long covid. I’ve got crazy heart rhythm, fatigue and brain fog, and those have persisted since February. I was calling BS on long covid too. It really losses me off as the community is deriving great joy from dancing on my long covid grave.
I’m on an flccc.net long covid protocol and things seem to be improving, but went backwards a bit this weekend.
I hate to have to report this truth.
I've had covid symptoms since late 2020. Some have subsided completely, others have improved, but not completely. I get that anybody can have an invisible disease with no symptoms, but for me it was all physical, shingles like rash covering large areas persisting for more than a year, etc. I don't care if certain people don't believe it's a thing and I live my life the same way I did before covid. I don't tell anybody irl about it. Through it all, I've been able to train heavy and eat healthy. I'm staying positive that all my symptoms will subside eventually, but the idea that serious people think long covid doesn't exist is just silly. Doesn't hurt my feelings, just makes otherwise informed people look a bit like quacks.
I bet Alex doesn’t believe in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Lyme disease lol.
I suffer from vax injuries and run in a lot of long covid groups. Some of these people can’t get out of bed. There is some auto immune issues or viral persistence issues.
I do agree the “long covid grift” where some people blames covid for anything minor after a covid exposure.
Of course long covid is where it's going. :/ Aggravating as he**. My spouse was hospitalized with Covid; was severely ill. Even we don't believe in it. Not saying it never happens but it is a convenient catch-all for lots of issues, including covid vaccine injuries.
Alex, very glad to see you linking to important voices like Eugyppius. Keep it going!
thanks for the plug, mr berenson.
I had the original strain March 2021 and was down pretty hard for about 3 weeks. Honestly, between getting older (66) and that extended recovery, I'm not sure Covid didn't leave a mark. Hard to say on an individual basis but I do agree the Branch Covidians will ride this mule for all it's worth.
Something in the virus caused me massive unintentional weight loss for 18 months now. I’ve lost 65 lbs and am basically skin and bones and no health issues prior. Many hours of doctor visits and many co-pays later revealed absolutely nothing. To those who don’t suffer it’s shoved aside… nothing to see here. I would tread lightly on assumptions that there is no such thing or the hysterical people trying to find an answer are loons. Do you not think a BIOWEAPON released on the public would cause health problems? Do you think you are “safe” because you recovered from infection and seem to be fine and healthy? Better think again.
Experimental DNA drug shots and experimental rapidly mutating lab virus results in unknown harmful consequences. Just the beginning, especially for those multi jabbed.
This is brilliant! I've been saying the same thing. "Long COVID" doesn't even make sense.
You're either sick or you're not. We have never heard of "Long Flu" or hear people say, "I'm suffering from a Long Cold." They might say, "I'm having trouble getting over this cold." But they eventually do.
None of what's been pushed about COVID has made any sense. From the Chinese people falling over in the streets, to the "need" for a vaccine, and all other therapeutic methods ignored.
Everything has played out in a strange, kind of surreal, choreographed way. Nothing like this has ever happened in my lifetime. And definitely NOT for some disease that magically jumped from bats to people. I never believed that. All of the timing was too close to the election. There were states preparing for lockdowns before any lockdowns were even being considered here in the US. This was during the time that Fauci was telling people that masks don't work, and nobody has anything to worry about.
What I've learned from this whole scenario.
1. The FDA and the CDC are political organizations. They do not follow science, they do as they are directed by bureaucrats.
2. The people behind the push for the vaccines have known all along the risks involved, and purposely pushed them anyway.
3. Possible therapeutics were banned, misrepresented in the media, and reputable doctors were smeared when they brought these facts up.
4. This is NEVER going to end. With the onset of Monkeypox, and now Nipah virus being "found" in China, we can see where this is going.
5. The leftists and globalists need the never ending "emergency" to keep their draconian controls in place to steer people away from free societies.
Personally, I will NEVER AGAIN follow the advice of the FDA or CDC. From what I can see they are hell bent on breaking their own rules. The FDA already broke their own rules to approve the Flu vaccine each year. Every year the formula is changed, and every year there is no 3-stage trial performed. They just rubber stamp it and off it goes.
The power being collected by political factions all over the world, primarily in NATO countries, is scary. Because we see what they are doing with it in The Netherlands, Canada, and now Ireland. They are demonizing nitrogen. After listening for 30+ years about how CO2 is going to kill us. Now they are switching to nitrogen/fertilizer. Why? To create the necessary food shortages to further their goals. Without nitrogen fertilizers farmers will not be able to yield normal crops. The governments of these countries are purposely limiting the use of nitrogen – to limit the food supply. All of this when we are supposed to be recovering from COVID?
We’re in uncharted territory right now, and it’s time that people realize that those placed in positions of power, those who many trusted, are NOT working for the good of all people.
The Communist Covidians are the same group of UN Agenda 2030 soldiers. With C19 losing the ability to force people to comply then 'Climate change' will be pulled out of their bag of tricks. People in California are now being 'trained' by WEF leader Gavin Newsom to do without electricity on certain days. Water and food rationing is now starting as well. "You will own nothing and you will be happy". Not going to be easy in other parts of the US that are fully armed and ready.
RESPIRATORY THERAPIST here, over 40 years. I caught Covid before it became famous in Sept. oct. and Nov. of ---2019. You heard it right. 2019. Got treated for bronchitis; 2 antibiotics, 3 sets of steroids, breathing treatment all day and night; just could not take a deep breath, coughing and tired a lot. Was certain I had Pneumonia!! But I know what secrets stay in the hospitals so I did not volunteer as another guiny pig! No I do not smoke, drink, drugs or have underlying illnesses. I worked through it for 11 weeks; slept every chance I got. And then i got well. Nothing lingering that I know of. Caught it again May of '21. Little nasal pressure low fever 100.3 and congestion on friday gone by Sunday night. Did lose taste and smell 13 days. Here I am 1.5 years later happy and healthy. And hell F'n NO I did not take the injection of the experimental drug. Thank God I don't have those spikey little floating in my body.
I have two autoimmune conditions that started three weeks after my first (and only) influenza infection. I live with the consequences every day but consider myself lucky as I have less horrible autoimmune conditions that many others. We have no idea how long the viral proteins persist in the body, especially the spike protein. We have no idea what kind of mischief they might stir up in the immune system. I would also point out that many doctors on Team Reality believe long covid is a real phenomenon (Marek, Kory) and are trying to help people with persistent symptoms. They also claim that the viral infection (like the jabs) can re-activate latent viral infections such as Epstein-Barr.
And, of course, we cannot ignore the reality that many people have had multiple mRNA injections to top off their viral infection(s).
It's not long covid we're dealing with, it's long metabolic deficiency. People with healthy immune systems handle this virus easily. Those who are unhealthy before infection have worse symptoms and longer recovery. The medical industrial complex doesn't want us healthy -- degrades their profits.
The idiocies of the German Health Minister are World Class, and deserve attention.
Sort of like how Biden is a total fool, but for some reason you don't bring that up, do you Alex?
The corona cultists are still (like two days ago) stuck on "but one million died" and cannot hear a word, so if the media pushes this next craziness they will be sure to park their cars there. My sister has been telling me her biggest fear is "long covid". It's ridiculous how they're building it up into A Thing. (I had it mildly, and two friends have it more seriously, but it could be all the shots they took. And in each case it was fatigue.)
On the one hand, it's an escaped bioweapon. And on the other hand, its effects are exaggerated? The argument doesn't make sense.
I had long Covid. So did my spouse. So did many (most?) people I know, vaxxed or not.
For me it was a bad flu, not the worst I've ever had, but the body aches were real. The cough lasted 2-3 weeks. Overall not huge deal, mostly nuisance, lungs are fine now, but these spike proteins are buggers and they stick around.
Eugyppius is not stuck, but over the target.
His bete noire, German Health Minister Karl Lauterbach, is a case study in mendacity, incompetence and unaccountability. Like many European "health" ministers, he is himself rather sickly. To study Lauterbach is to study everything that is broken in government interference with public health.
Let Lauterbach become known to Germans as Quisling was known to Norwegians, but with far more blood on his hands.
Alex, generally I like you, but what is your beef with Long Covid? I got Covid in March of 2020 and had chest pain, shortness of breath and decreased lung capacity for a year.
Some of eugyppius most entertaining essays are the ones on the German Health Ministry.
It’s mostly middle-aged women affected by long Covid, this is no different than any other autoimmune disorder. And it’s not bc they’re just “whiners” as is often implied- there’s a scientific explanation for it.
Ask Victor Davis Hanson if Long COVID is a figment of his imagination. Now, it is possible that it’s the vaccines that are causing the long COVID and not Covid itself.
I was a medical-legal consultant 25-30 years ago when a couple of attorneys asked me to evaluate some of their clients who were claiming damages due to silicone breast implants. At the time, someone had published a study (later refuted) that linked implants to systemic lupus erythematosus and other autoimmune diseases. I kid you not. These women would come in with every symptom under the sun written on 1-2 pages of lined yellow legal pads. Symptoms included fatigue, anxiety, sweating, headache, stress, being fired from job, joint pain, back pain, abdominal cramps, diarrhea, constipation, car battery died, dog ate kids homework, etc. While the last two might be a stretch you get the idea. I don't doubt that some people might have some effects after their bout of COVID, I expect a jump in disability filings in the next year claiming inability to work due to Long COVID.
For some people, there are long-term effects from the flu. This is no different.
As Eugyppius notes, there's a huge difference between sequelae from viral infection (side effects from a severe bout with the virus) and "Long Covid". The former is the result of damage to the body and immune system caused by a one-time fight with Covid. Imagine you were one of the unfortunates who was put on a ventilator early on and somehow managed to survive. I'm sure life is not the same for such a person. That's different than these hypochondriacs claiming long COVID.
Hmmm, I thought when we were all distracted by that FBI raid on Mar-A-Lago, the longestttttttttt two weeks of our lives had OFFICIALLY ENDED???? Aren't we on to Monkeypox and sudden adult death syndrome?????
COVID Satire/Memes/Jokes: Best COVID Logic & Variant Memes (Longest 2 Weeks of Our Lives Ends!)
- COVID narrative has a Great Reset. Will there still be a Midterm variant? Sheep pox, sheeple essentials kit, how variants got named, US Open logic, plus more COVID logic and COVID variant memes!
https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/covid-logic-variant-memes-aug-14-2022
Yeah I think there are many issues with consistency here. For vax skeptics. if long haul vaccination syndrome is caused by the spike protein, it's not unreasonable to think SARS-CoV-2 itself could produce a uniquely bad post-viral syndrome. For vax pushing covid fascists, if you're going to lump every correlated event post-infection into "long covid" (which they absolutely do) you'd better also take the same ultra conservative approach to tallying vaccine injury.
This is all further reason to ensure best possible immune health with Vitamin D etc. as the first line of defense.
One of the earliest outbreaks of Covid in North America occurred in Park City, Utah, in early 2020 - presumably brought by tourists returning from Europe. Shortly thereafter I got a ride home in a shuttle from an auto service center. The driver was describing a party he'd attended in Park City the night before. He said it was a real rave. Four days later I developed a severe sore throat and then chills, major chills; turned thermostat up to 80 degrees, wore a heavy sweater and two pairs of ski socks at night. Lasted two weeks. A month later my body was under attack - brain fog (couldn't read and my wife took me to ER), rapid heart rate, shortness of breath, intolerance of heat (could not go outside), intolerance of exertion and no stamina - after being a runner for 40 years (who craved the endorphins), and profuse sweating with minimal exercise, Our family doctor tried to get me in to so-called Covid "Clinics" in the Intermountain area - with no luck. It turns out, reasonably, that they were, and still are, research centers. In the past four months I've been to six specialists, had numerous blood draws, scans, needles, and electrical charges. The good news is - they can't find anything; the bad news is - they can't find anything. At least I'm on the right side of the grass.
Alex respectfully the point Eugyppius was making is that long Covid is a lame
excuse the regulatory captured agencies and Governments continue to make to offer solutions
to a problem that is overstated. To date not one of the Governments "solutions" have worked as we all know.
Long Covid is very real albeit in the minority of COVID recovered patients. Here is the science that proves it beyond any doubt that viral loads persist in COVID recovered patients.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35434682/
Conclusions: The extended presence of viral RNA in feces, but not in respiratory samples, along with the association of fecal viral RNA shedding with GI symptoms suggest that SARS-CoV-2 infects the GI tract and that this infection can be prolonged in a subset of individuals with COVID-19.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9185873/
To summarize, this study provides a unique analysis of fecal shedding dynamics among people with mild to moderate COVID-19.1 These findings have potential implications for clinical interventions, community surveillance, and modeling predictions of future outbreaks. Further studies of this kind are warranted as it remains unclear how the emergence and spread of new variants will influence fecal shedding dynamics at the population level and how these changes may impact public health efforts moving forward.
The same is valid for urine:
" Of note, in five patients (23%), viral RNA was present in urine but no longer detectable in nasopharyngeal swab at the time of enrollment in the study. Among them, a patient with a constantly negative nasopharyngeal swab for 30 days but with a high urine viral load after 41 day after the onset of symptoms is of particular interest."
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2020.569209/full
It is nothing less than hilarious and hideous to me what people write here.
So, what are you folks going to do if it turns out that Liz Cheney wins her reelection campaign in Wyoming tomorrow, and somehow she wins with more votes than there are people in Wyoming…
You’re going do exactly what you did in 2020 then 2021 and so far this year, nothing!
And these sociopathic scumbags are ruthless, they depend on your apathy indifference and uncaring! And you will willingly eagerly and relentlessly cooperate by sticking your freedom independence autonomy and choice so far up your butts that you choke on it in the back of your mouths…
The biggest takeaway from Covid (besides never “trust the experts” ) is that everyone has to be diligent about their own health. There’s no magic bullet to save any of us.
I'm interested to know if there's ever been a study on "long covid' that included unvaccinated individuals. I've seen a couple studies done, and questioned those doing the studies what they specifically DIDN'T included unvaccinated persons. Makes me wonder if any unvaccinated even GET it. Like multiple Covid infections.......I know of nobody who was unvaccinated and got and recovered from Covid that has been reinfected. I know lots of people who've been vaccinated 2,3 and 4 times that seem to get Covid like I get indigestion after eating spicy food .... It's weird.
Long Covid is a huge load of you know what. It’s called vaccine induced destruction of your immune system. Asymptomatic infection is another lie. PCR tests another lie. F......g lies to get fear to obliterate critical thinking.
German insurance claims hint at millions of unreported vaccine injuries:
https://www.conservativereview.com/horowitz-german-insurance-claims-vaccine-injury-2657863726.html
alex, you and eugyppius have taken a position on this issue as idiotic as the idiots you rightfully criticize. I will grant you there is no such thing as 'long' Covid (plus all other synonyms), there is only Covid (itself a fuzzy construct). It would be much more helpful if you would engage with true systems biologists and impartial front line clinicians who are dealing with the real and truthful impacts of SARS2 infection and vaccination before pronouncing your determination of what people are dealing with. These impacts are quite real and rest on three biological circumstances: 1) direct viral toxicity with variable duration 2) biological response damage 3) activated or reactivated co-infections or biotoxin damage
I have a one word answer to this question:
Why has the level of trust in healthcare in the United States dropped to a level equivalent to trust with politicians and the media?
Covid.
If there is an opportunity to record history in the future, it will show that physicians were beyond complicit and corrupt in letting millions die if not from the virus, from complications from the vaccine.
When I read in future times of a physician being murdered by a disgruntled patient who was abandoned and mistreated, I won’t even think about it.
To colleagues out there, if you’ve given the impression that you believe that healthcare is popular easy and convenient, and in the end don’t really give a shit about your patients , you better constantly be looking behind you, it’s only a matter of time before someone finally says, “fuck this asshole, he/she doesn’t give a shit, so neither do I!“…
I don’t condone violence, but, I don’t grieve it either…
I don't know whether "stuck" is the right word. He's exposing the fool, the idiot, the despotic tyrant. That requires more than just a one-off. Because that tyrannical despot isn't just some worthless pundit; he's Germany's f'n Health Minister.
We don't get "stuck" shoving facts up Fauci's ass and down his throat. It's all richly deserved. Ditto that Health Minister POS human being.
The thing I most appreciate Eugyppius is he occasionally gives vent publicly to the things I only say in private to my spouse or the few like-minded individuals that I know. Things like this.
"We live just in the stupidest timeline.
There is no expressing how boundlessly dumb all of this is. We are effectively sanctioning ourselves here in Germany, after two years of totally voluntary and unnecessary self-inflicted economic destruction from lockdowns."
I try to use logical thought processes w/accurate information when trying persuade others to my viewpoint. He supplies this in abundance. But "boundlessly dumb" and "stupidest timeline possible" is what I really want to say.
Glad to see Eugyppius getting some acknowledgement. Every article of his is worth reading. He's one of the brightest lights in this corner of the internet.
Anyone doubting long that COVID exists should read the July 7 issue of the CELL article entitled "Mild respiratory COVID can cause multi-lineage neural cell and myelin dysregulation."
"Long COVID" is increasingly being used to justify zero COVID measures.
Cheryl B. Thank you for directing me to health food store, I appreciate it very much. I do pool exercises at our community pool. I go days when it is not busy, got the times down pat. I also have a pilates machine at home and the Inversion table. Best of health to you.
Susan G, if you are speaking to me, unfortunately I live in Ontario,Canada. I had an excellent family doctor for 30 years, he retired 5 years ago, I was so lucky to be referred to this younger doctor. As with everything new I was a little nervous, but he turned out to be a peach, a gem, so very involved, takes his time, refers to specialists if necessary, he even asks if you want to see one, and who you prefer.. I hope and pray you find someone like that. Oh another thing he does not ask about the jab or push it, actually doesn't even mention it. Wishing you good health and finding the best doctor, that cares out there. Best of luck.
There is an NHL player suffering from long COVID. Dr. Malone suffered from it.
Struggling with long COVID, Brandon Sutter is taking ivermectin
https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/377320/Struggling-with-long-COVID-Brandon-Sutter-is-taking-ivermectin
Quote: "Over a year after first testing positive for COVID-19, Brandon Sutter is still dealing with long COVID symptoms that threaten to end the 33-year-old forward’s NHL career.
It’s a desperate situation for Sutter with few answers available. In that type of situation, it’s understandable that Sutter would grasp for any source of hope he can find. According to an interview with Postmedia’s Ben Kuzma, Sutter’s current source of hope is ivermectin. “Canadian doctors are not allowed to prescribe it for COVID and I had to get it myself, but it helps remove the COVID spike protein,” said Sutter to Kuzma. “It works. And in the U.S., it’s everywhere and it’s helping a lot of people and there is zero risk... “I still can’t do any cardio,” said Sutter to Kuzma. “I tried working out again in March and April to kind of get going again. But I’d have a really bad day and it would just crush me — I just couldn’t do it — because of a lack of oxygen and just depleting myself. The lingering effect is an inability to breathe normally and properly.”"
This is a professional athlete who is losing millions of dollars and can't even work out due to long COVID. Let's not gaslight him and tell him he's imagining his problems. It's real, pretending it's not real at this point is ridiculous.
The scale of the problem should not be dismissed before it is properly studied. We know that the first version of COVID caused clotting disorders. This is not rocket science, it is clear the original strains caused serious harm to some people.
Now, I don't pretend to know how bad or how serious an issue it is. But pretending that it is no issue at all amounts to gaslighting.
Our 44 year daughter who lives with us is covid positive. She is staying clear of us and after two days she is feeling fine. She is unvaccinated by choice. I'm immuno suppressed from a liver transplant 24 years ago. I got the two injections and took forever to feel like I did before. It would be great if we could have truth rather than propaganda. It all needs to end. Please think carefully when November comes around and vote these Marxists out.