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Matthew McWilliams's avatar

Twenty-five years? Personally, I’ve been listening to this climate crap for over forty years. By my reckoning, we’ve had ten years to save the planet since 1985.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

You might not be old enough, but I remember in the mid 70's several publications put on their front cover that "experts" believed we were threatened by a "little ice age".

I sure feel sorry for global warming ever since it was jilted for climate change....:)

Wolfpak5's avatar

I remember being in grade school and the teachers "educating" us about acid rain. They claimed that the Statute of Liberty would be eaten away and by the time we reached adulthood she would be gone. Meanwhile, 40 years later she's still standing!

Wolfpak5's avatar

If memory serves me correctly, it might have been in our "Weekly Reader". With a picture of her nose "decaying" away from the acid...of course! Here they had every kid worried about getting wet in the rain after that. LOL

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Yes! So funny! I have not thought about that Weekly Reader for years. And getting under our desks for bomb drills- that was comforting…not! I was in elementary school and even at that young age didn’t really believe that this would do any good.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

In 3rd grade we were making fun of the "duck and cover" routine.

We were like if it's going to happen just let it drop on our building

Bruce B's avatar

I remember the Weekly Reader telling us about Howard Hughes' Glomar Explorer ship that was to mine manganese nodules off the ocean floor in an environmentally friendly way. Oh goody. While it was really a CIA cover to raise a sunken Russian submarine.

Matthew McWilliams's avatar

Do you remember the cartoon that got published, I believe in Time Magazine, of Soviet soldiers waving the Soviet flag from the top of the Statue of Liberty?

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. Helluva a memory. Total forgot about that

SRwilson's avatar

I think she had a face lift. She surely would have been gone if not for that.

Matthew McWilliams's avatar

As a matter of fact, Reagan did have her refurbished for her 100th anniversary. Too bad they didn't remove that stupid poem that someone stapled to it back in the 19th century.

Louise C's avatar

Some low IQ people, (credit to President Trump for the phrase), actually think that poem is part of the Constitution.

Louise C's avatar

That surgery bill must have been astronomical. Her head is 17 feet 3 inches from chin to cranium and 10 feet wide. Nose Length: 4 feet, 6 inches. Eye Width: 2 feet, 6 inches. Just a nose job would have cost a fortune.

SRwilson's avatar

Surely the French paid for it.

Tom Ward's avatar

I was there too! It was put forth in the fantasy "The Population Bomb" by Paul Ehrlich. Do you know the worst part? 1) He was dead wrong and 2) Stanford U. kept him on staff for his lifetime. You don't have to be smart to be a Stanford professor, apparently.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

basically the experts have been wrong about everything for two generations, we just didn't know how severe it was until the scamdemic.

they're actually "incentivized" to be wrong because of grant funding. did you know that 56% of researchers admit through self-reporting that they have fudged results to meet the initial criteria they were trying to prove? you can find this study in Mattias Desmet's book "The Psychology of Totalitarianism". you got to wonder what percentage actually fudged given this is just self-reporting.

the fact is, they have abandoned the scientific method, specifically the most important part of a hypothesis; the principle that a scientific theory or hypothesis must be capable of being proven false through observation or experiment.

climate change is unfalsifiable garbage...and they know it.

Louise C's avatar

I think the US only started keeping temperature records in the 1890s. How do they know how warm it was before this? I keep trying to explain to those who are all in on climate change that most of the stats that the "scientists" release are based on models not facts. The answer I get: Well the models are created by educated scientists who have studied climate change for years. The orange man is a climate change denier who doesn't believe the Science.

SRwilson's avatar

They can put all the lipstick in the world on that pig but it's still a guess.

Patricia GR's avatar

Start with the answer and work backwards

Jeff P's avatar

Not trying to be a dick, but I think you mean Stanford; Stamford (CT) is full of private equity and hedge fund millionaire banker/"investor" types who probably make big $ off this crap. All the solar "farms" and "Windmill" turbines they have funded are all probably high margin bizniz.

Tom Ward's avatar

LOL. Thank you. No, you are not a dick. I live in RI and have driven through Stamford once too often. My bad. Thanks. I have made the correction.

Matthew McWilliams's avatar

I am certainly old enough to remember the coming Ice Age. Winters in the late 1970s and early 80s were particularly cold and snowy in my corner of Southeastern Pennsylvania. We used kerosene space heaters in the house to keep the oil usage down since those were the days of the second oil shock. That was also the time when folks were tying yellow ribbons around trees for the Iran hostages, if you remember that.

I was a sophomore in college in 1985 when I first caught wind of this climate thing. They called it the Greenhouse Effect back in those days. Hot on the heels of the acid rain schtick and just before the hole in the ozone layer was going to get us all irradiated. At least Neil Young got some cheap lyrics out of that one. Somewhere in there was the heterosexual AIDS epidemic and peak oil. At least The Road Warrior has aged well as a film. I can't say as much for Water World.

Joseph Kaplan's avatar

We moved to phila from Calif in 1970. I remember when both rivers froze over and there was ice skating on the Delaware river

Matthew McWilliams's avatar

Interestingly, I was born outside of Philadelphia, moved with my parents to the Bay area in the late 1960s, then moved back to the Philadelphia area in 1970. The Delaware froze again this year. I blame global warming.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yup. The winters of 77'-79' were brutal

MSK's avatar

Yes. Cold those winters. Even missed school for a week due to snow in Arkansas. But got to go sledding a lot. Made up for it by canceling most of spring break in spring of 78.

Ilene Heller's avatar

I think that actually started in the very early 1960s when we had a couple of very cold winters with lots of snow.

P. J. Eller's avatar

Yep. I remember snow piled up to the top of the phone and electric poles on either side of the street and roads were sheets of ice in Indiana. I was too young to drive but my father thought it was a perfect time for me to practice. Exciting times.

Leslie Sacha's avatar

I was taught about both the likelihood global warming and global cooling in the same lecture at Huxley environmental college in the mid 70’s. What??? Seems it wasn’t clear which way it would go, but for sure, they KNEW it wasn’t gonna be good. I never quite regained my faith scientific prediction after that lecture, except to realize if these ninnies keep shooting little reflective things into our upper atmosphere to stop global warming, we might have a real problem (planet wide ice age) on our hands. Some years later I heard that the first IPCC report (from which Gore lifted his calamitous predictions of sea level rise) was apparently never really peer reviewed, but even that original report cited extreme sea level rise as statistically improbable. Alas, Gore’s story “went viral” and one of the more effective mass fear mongering campaigns was off and running!

Brian Anderson's avatar

Twenty-five years is also the upper limit to be a Leo girlfriend.

It's True's avatar

It could be a tie between Leo and Greta for this award. Although there are a ton of contenders.

Danno's avatar

Al Gore - Grandfather of the mythical hockey stick chart.

It's True's avatar

Like the socialist (?) Gabriella Karefa-Johnson flying first class, the rules are for everyone else. My rule is: you first, then I'll be convinced you at least believe it.

JollyLittlePerson's avatar

Same with covid. The 'elites' didn't act like they were scared of catching covid, they acted like they enjoyed locking us down and forcing experimental medicine on us.

LRH's avatar

Can’t get rid of the useless eaters unless you can confuse them and convince them into taking the experimental “VAXX “ under the guise of possible death without it.

Louise C's avatar

I think he still owns a 10,000 sq. ft. home in TN. At one time it was emitting as much carbon per year as 5 2400 sq. ft. homes.

ScottyG's avatar

Leo, at least gives us his many very well acted performances. Greta, not sure other than scolding and pretending to be arrested has to offer. 🤷‍♂️

Chartertopia's avatar

I favor the tale of Hansen and Greta.

It's True's avatar

Hopefully all sunk at the end. 😂

It's True's avatar

There are so many!

Bill Hale's avatar

Too bad that Greta is too old for Leo to date.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

little off topic, but DeCaprio looks like he could benefit from some testosterone replacement therapy...just saying.

Flatulus Maximus's avatar

To steal Richard Jeni bit, Leo looks like he needs the Joey Falco Diet Plan tape. It's not audio tape, not video tape, it's Scotch Tape. You put it over your mouth so the Twinkies don't get in. Jeni's tag line: "Stop eatin', you fat bastard!"

Ian in Vancouver's avatar

It is probably worthwhile to mention that total human CO2 emissions (even including the huge Chinese contribution), are a tiny fraction of Earth's total CO2 emissions in the atmosphere and even a tinier fraction of the amount present in the ocean. For example, the best estimate of NATURAL emissions of CO2 from plant decay (3 trillion trees on the earth and many more other types of plants), volcanic venting (mostly undersea), forest fires and exchange with the oceans is about 800 gigatonnes CO2 per year (GT/yr) as compared to the ~38 GT/yr from humans (about 10% of that human total is from human metabolism and our exhaled CO2). That means that LESS than 5% of total planetary emissions of CO2 into the atmosphere is associated with humans.

Another inconvenient fact for those worried about CO2 emissions or changes in ocean as a result is that the total quantity of CO2 already dissolved in the oceans is about FIFTY times greater than the TOTAL CO2 content of the atmosphere! To put it another way, if ALL of the CO2 currently in the atmosphere were to magically move to the oceans (that would kill us all but fortunately it is impossible), for purposes of illustration only, the concentration of CO2 in the oceans would only increase by TWO PERCENT. Another interesting fact is that the concentration of dissolved calcium in the ocean is TEN TIMES the concentration of CO2 in the oceans (FIVE HUNDRED TIMES the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere!). The formation of limestone in the shallow warm tropical oceans by coral formation (not slowing down) and in deep temperate and arctic waters by pressure at depth by combining CO2 and Calcium (plus some Magnesium) are continuing as they have uninterrupted for the last billion years or so. That formation mechanism formed many of the chains of mountains and coast lines across the world, e.g the "chalk cliffs of dover" and practically the entire REd Sea coast. The pH of the ocean hasn't changed significantly (we know because of oil wells producing sea water from the past) in at least half a billion years EVEN THOUGH CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere were TEN TIMES higher in the past!!, but the pH of the oceans was the same - the chemistry of buffering by calcium and magnesium prevent it. Also, Life THRIVED on the Earth in those times. CO2 is the stuff of life. We are carbon based life forms and all that CO2 comes from the atmosphere. Think about that the next time you walk through a forest - all of those trees are only possible because of the CO2 in the air. However, at 0.042% we are in a severe CO2 drought in the atmosphere! During the last Glaciation (12000-100,000 years ago - WIsconsin glaciation), CO2 levels decreased below 200 ppm (0,02%) and plant growth rates were severely affected, e.g. the Amazon jungle was only half its current size. Plant life on the Earth has responded rapidly and positively to the ~100 ppm increase in CO2 in the atmosphere in the last 100 years or so. Humans are greatly enriching the biosphere by their emissions of CO2. Thank the Chinese!! Finally, the temperature of the earth does not seem to be driven by CO2. It is the opposite effect. The temperature of the Earth drives the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere by outgassing (or absorption) of CO2 from the MUCH higher concentrations in the oceans. The oceans weigh 500 times more than the atmosphere. We are a water planet. IF the misnamed "Greenhouse Effect" is significant over that of compressive heating and convection driven by gravity and the local solar constant (not sure about that!), it would STILL be dominated by water vapour and NOT by CO2. Water vapour's average concentration on the Earth is TWELVE times higher than CO2 and water vapor is single bonded bent molecule with more infra-red absorption bands than the linear double-bonded CO2 molecule. So IF the GHE is significant to our planetary temperature, it would be water vapour that dominates the effect and not CO2. Please note that the concentration of CO2 in the Martian atmosphere is more than TEN TIMES higher in absolute concentration (95% of 0.007 atmospheres = 6500 ppm CO2 compared to 420 ppm for the Earth), yet there is hardly ANY GHE on Mars. It is too bad that it doesn't have a strong one! We could go there and visit! BOTTOM LINE: although I don't agree with President Trump on many things, he is CORRECT about the Green New Scam!! Ian in Vancouver BC

John Sirko's avatar

China is playing the west like a fiddle. Their "green energy" industry is simply aimed at a naive west in their quest to be the world's dominant power.

Louise C's avatar

You're right. China is making solar panels and windmills for woke countries, that feel so virtuous using green energy. In the meantime, China is using coal that produces abundant energy not 8 or 10% like green sources. The people in charge for the last 4 years were biting off America's nose to spite her face.

Leslie Sacha's avatar

Yes another incomprehensible aspect of our relationship with China. Our US based global corporations were ecstatic about the opportunity and $$$ profit, so madly contracted with Chinese firms to manufacture their brand products in a country where they weren’t bothered by our USA stringent environmental & worker safety laws. In return, we got our cheap (and cheaply made) products while the Chinese siphoned off our wealth, our manufacturing jobs and our tech & our self sufficiency. Yep, we sure signed up for that class, but we still don’t want to acknowledge that lesson.

Louise C's avatar

During covid it became obvious that we do not manufacture many things we need like antibiotics. The US imports antibiotics from China and India, with China supplying over 60% of active pharmaceutical ingredients and India leading in finished dosage forms. Very few are manufactured in the US.

Jim Brown's avatar

"There will no further science-based scams for a generation at least. There will be plenty of other scams but none will be successful if they appeal to "science"."

I agree, this is likely true. But I'm also pretty sure there will be scams, probably financial. The public needs to learn to mistrust public financial information as much as it learned to distrust the CDC, NIH, Pfizer, the IPCC, and the Sierra Club.

Ilene Heller's avatar

There are many ongoing science/health-related scams (e.g., statins, HepB vaccine, changing normal ranges so more people are diagnosed with hypertension, etc.).

Financial scams will always be with us - I'm thinking about bitcoin/cryptocurrency in the present. And now we have artificial intelligence to contend with. A new category -tech scams?

ScarlettHamiltonAustralia's avatar

Don't forget anti-depressants! Medical professional (ret) here. Just like the withdrawal symptoms from antidepressants are called "discontinuation syndrome". It is marketing genius. But the reality is that antidepressants were designed to be addictive. And, all meta analyses (published and unpublished) show equal effectiveness to placebo. After 30 years qualified, I can confirm I have never had a patient successfully come off them. Wake up everyone.

Ilene Heller's avatar

And you can add atypical antipsychotics - which are prescribed for many things other than psychosis. And let's not forget gabapentin - prescribed for anything & everything (seizures, pain, etc.).

Every time there is a mass shooting the first question that comes to my mind is, "What prescribed psychotropic drugs was this person taking?" You would think that would wake people up, but no.

BTW, I am a (pediatric) nurse practitioner (in the U.S. that is an advanced practice registered nurse with prescriptive privileges).

Jim Brown's avatar

Yeah, we should start a list.

Patrick Gaughan's avatar

Even the climate zealots don't really believe their own rhetoric. If climate change is an existential threat to human survival, then we would be forming a coalition to go to war with China to stop their accelerating CO2 pollution. At the very least, we would go to war economically -- boycott, embargo, total isolation. If that didn't stop them, we would be looking at military options. If CO2 is destroying the planet, we would have no other choice.

But we aren't, are we? Could it be that all of this is just virtue signaling, power grabbing, and diverting public funds to those who know how to game the system?

JollyLittlePerson's avatar

We'd at least stop selling coal to China...

Philip Joseph's avatar

It is also a proven fact that throughout geologic history, temperatures increase first and CO2 increases follow, not the Gore/DeCaprio/Obama whooper of the reverse lie. Recent CO2 increases to levels around 450 ppm are now thankfully comfortably above the global extinction levels, although still no where near the much higher levels when Earth was a verdant green paradise. This has resulted in a 15% increase in the planetary greening as well as record crop yields. All good things to normal sane people but bad news to the lying grifting globalist fear mongers.

WE Preston's avatar

Excellent Alex. If you haven't already, I encourage you to subscribe to my friend Robert Bryce's substack. His recent eight-minute video Yacht-Zee is excellent, revealing the monster yachts and carbon footprints of the silicon-valley set. He also regularly reveals the truth of the brutal cruelty of having the poor and middle class fund the impact-free virtue signaling of the climate obsessed.

ktrip's avatar
Mar 4Edited

It is just one part of the plan to get the west to commit suicide and get rich while doing it. Add in globalization, open borders, the Islamization of Europe and elsewhere and you have a solid recipe for destruction. The hard part is discerning the dupes from the truly complicit. People still wearing masks for COVID are probably dupes, but what about everyone else?

Chartertopia's avatar

There is no plan. It is just the absolutely bog-normal instinct of grifters to control everything with the latest panic. It was Communism, but when that collapsed in 1989, something else had to take its place, and global warning was as handy as anything else. It has outlived its usefulness, and lookee here, what have we here, AI!

Ed Powell's avatar

DiCaprio is definitely thinking about emissions. But not carbon.

🌻Sunflower Sue's avatar

Love it, but - it's Harrison Butker for the win!

RioRosie's avatar

It's not "climate change" nor is it "global warning." IT'S WEATHER.

Last week's b;izzard followed 10 years of winters where my snow boots sat unused by the front door.

After 48 hours without electricity, when the temp in my living room was 46 degrees, I prayed for a little global warming.

And HEY! What about that hole in the ozone that ended all aerosol cans?

Bob J's avatar

How dare you?! I mean, from the river to the sea! Wait, I mean...well you get the idea.

XOXO,

Greta

PDG's avatar

Why do we continue to make the simple mistake of just assuming that Carbon emissions have anything to do with any perceived climate change? BTW: climate change is redundant. Deforestation and the removal of grass lands in favor of concrete are the culprits of any man made climate change, which there is absolutely no evidence of. Look to that big bright thing in the sky, or even planetary alignment.

Curt Hahn's avatar

Would someone please get John Kerry on the line for me?