Those of us who believe in free speech, medical autonomy, and questioning Big Pharma must stand together. Or 2021 will be the future as well as the past.
I think my deepest reflection in hindsight is that normies still do not understand if the overlords and petty tyrants try that shit again, THERE WILL BE BLOOD...and assholes just like me will be first in line.
There's more than enough of us to wreak utter havoc.
Spread it around. My friends get it now, but I don't think most folks do............
I remember seeing your name here and on other related sites - and I’m ready to be an asshole again, if necessary. I was called exactly that by a number of people because I wasn’t wearing a mask, and will be willing do so again.
My regret is that I did not do enough. I’m retired and have some FU money and so can say whatever I want. I tried to join some groups around the Charlotte area that were fighting the insanity, especially with regard to masking children, but we didn’t organize effectively.
I decided one thing I could do is support people like Alex who were suddenly in the spotlight and targeted because they were trying to tell the truth.
Yeah. The forced-masking of children was downright evil. I had twin 9 year olds. So we fought it tooth and nail. Ultimately the only way was to pick up and leave CA for FL in July of 20'. Best decision of our lives.
We don’t have children, but whenever I saw a child wearing a mask, I just wanted to scream. The people responsible for that were cowards and fools. I wish I could personally shame them, but it seemed that almost everyone was complicit, which is why I think nobody has been held accountable.
Moving your family across country had to have been a traumatic experience. It was grossly unfair to families with small children, thankfully your family thrived but there were so many others who lacked your resources and are still in a place where children are seen as hazards.
Yes, children wearing masks WRONG!!!!!!- not being in school. All of it. Stupid. Doing nothing or just stay home for couple weeks if you get sick.
I may have given parts of this bio before, but I worked at a Home Depot. Sold out all the masks from Jan to the end of Feb 2020 - to Asians who sent them to China!!! Yes!! it was my dept. I asked them. I bought last N95 3pc set we had, sent it to my daughter-in-law who worked in ICU at a major hospital out of state. She said they had issued her ONE, to re-use!!! (Those mask shelves remained EMPTY for months. The painters, etc had nothing to buy.)
Nothing changed in our store at first. They put up moving boxes outside our counters to keep customers further away. Customers would still hand us paint lids, phones (pictures of rooms, etc) Lots of antiseptic on counters. Then Plexiglass shields. We went from 'light traffic store' to VERY BUSY, because nobody could go anywhere except grocery or home stores ('ESSENTIAL', don't you know!!. at least they didn't close our 'non-essential' depts like MI Home Depot's were forced. Totally stupid.)
After 1st employee's spouse contracted the virus (~Apr '20), she had to stay home a couple weeks. JULY 22, 2020 was 1st day we were REQUIRED to Mask. I eventually contracted covid Dec 28. Never got jab. I would have (could have) quit when mandate looked imminent Dec 2021. -Remember? Businesses over 100 employees. THAT never happened.
And I was in a rather OPEN mid-west state. From everything I SAW, it was all a joke as far as any rationale. The day a little child (about 6) came a little late into Mass (School kids came on Thurs). Maybe Fall 2020. Teacher/all of us masked. I pulled my mask down to smile at her. Couldn't imagine trying to be a little student through all that. Cruel. I've taught a lot of little children.
All the FORCED-or-lose-your-job, etc etc. Just a CRIME against sanity and humanity.
I had a relative who had celebrated her father's 90th b'day in NJ VA residence Feb 2020. He was very healthy. In late March he got sniffles, they quarantined him OUT of his private room to the 'covid wing'. He died 4 days later. They lived out of state. They WEREN'T TOLD he was moved. They couldn't have a funeral. Their daughter's Oct 2020 wedding - virtually cancelled/ only 6 or 8 present outdoors. I shudder to think of ALL the unknown ???? that was perpetrated.
I know it wasn't the horror of holocaust, or genocide now in Nigeria, many worse atrocities in history, but the SCALE, the pompous lies, never again.
I am SO GRATEFUL for Alex - and others - disseminating TRUTH, for community of eyes-open people.
I regret I didn't do enough as well. I'm self-employed and was very worried about losing income, especially with at the time 3 kids who were dependent on me. Now I only have 1 dependent, but I'm also caring for my elderly mom. Getting cancelled could have killed my career. It was rather terrifying.
Yep, even those of us who resisted...we still put up with A LOT. Never again. I do think if they tried something like this again, it would be game over for our country. So much of the social cohesion is gone now. For those of us with a brian in our heads, there is not much out there to defend. Protect your family. Unite with like minded people. The rest will fail.
I remember walking around inside a supermarket being the only person not masked up. It felt so strange seeing everyone so obedient and scared of a virus no more threatening than the flu. I really hope that if the powers that never should be ever try that shit again I won’t be alone in resisting.
I'm still not convinced that "covid" was anything more than a perhaps worse than usual yearly flu that was co-opted for the purpose. There were early scientist reports about the furin cleavage site in the virus that could not occur naturally. So perhaps it was the leak of a manipulated virus combined with the yearly flu for effect. We still don't know for sure.
The big story not yet fully revealed is exactly how the instant worldwide narrative was planned and created, why it was created, and by which groups of players, probably many more culprits than we yet know. The way it all started was unbelievably suspicious, and to this day I'm glad my BS meter was alive and well because there were a lot of clues early on. Certain things leaked out but were quickly suppressed and most people never read about them. Yesterday I saw a repeat of a Chinese shock video clip we were all fed in 2020...a man standing on the street corner and suddenly toppling over face first. It looked shocking, but I re-ran the clip so see if his face and head hit the concrete and lo and behold, at the right moment he had his hands in the right place to break the fall. If I had to guess, I would say he was a martial arts expert who knew how to fall like that. Another suspicious thing was how at one point "experts" were claiming the yearly flu had mysteriously "disappeared". B.S. on that one too. There were so many things.
In any case, what was most horrifying to watch was how meek and complicit and mindlessly obedient so many people became, and how quickly they got in line. Never underestimate the power of fear.
Me too. Literally the only one in the store. One time the manager said ‘may I offer you a mask?’ I don’t appreciate being treated like a plague rat, I don’t believe he enjoyed my comments that followed.
I'm 100% with you. Not backing down if this happens again. A couple of my vax loving friends know how I feel, the ones I felt I could be honest with. But the others are going to hear from me if we have a repeat.
I was prepared to quit my job as an ER doc and face serious financial risk before getting that damn dangerous shot. All that saved me was that I lived in Florida.
Do you have any insights as to why doctors were so irrational? I had always assumed that doctors would be rational and caring, but as a group they seemed to be the most hysterical.
Sadly, physicians are in so many ways self-selected conformists, the mindset needed to get through basically a decade of regimentation, scrutiny, completion, and long, long hours. Most of us learn early to do what is needed to survive, and that includes blending in, and not sticking your head up when not necessary. We are trained in the (actual) science of vaccines, then told incessantly that the actual approved though resides with the CDC, FDA, NIH, AOM, ABMS, et al ad nauseam. We conform to the demands of Big Insurance, Big Hospital, and of course Big Government, forever, amen. They can ALL cut your pay off, submit you to your state medical board to threaten your license, or even threaten harsh financial and/or criminal penalties.
But no, NONE of that excuses willfully ignoring informed consent for patients, or the duty to think rationally and independently (something patients claim they want, but they don’t). Beyond all the coercion, too many physicians will just accept what they’re told and then work to enforce it, becoming the camp guards herding patients into box cars. What we were told about the virus, risks, available treatments, and that damn shot was largely contrary to our medical training, and our profession still didn’t question or push back. We were caught unawares, felt fearful, looked to those in power over us, and were panicked and used to stampede society. All because doctors largely reacted to fear, rather than lead with calm as we were supposedly trained.
I am a doctor that had stopped promoting all the vaccines made with aborted Human fetal lung tissue culture. I did not become aware of those until about 2000-2002. We weren't told of that. I only heard about the chicken pox vaccine. I remembered the heavy handed promotion of that vaccine with posters of very sick children in the ICU with tubes everywhere telling parents that unless they get their children the Varivax, their child would end up in the ICU extremely ill. Only later did I discover the fact that the Varivax has fetal DNA fragments. I knew immediately that using aborted Human fetal lung tissue culture was immoral and unethical. (It is still going on big time in our children.) So it took me about 10 seconds to know that the covid "vaccines" were bad, evil and not to be taken. Not because they contain human fetal DNA which they probably don't but because they weren't proven safe, they were using modified mRNA and the people promoting them were not ethical. If someone thinks killing the innocent unborn is ok, do not trust that person with anything having to do with your health. You are less innocent than the unborn. Lots of problems here.
So your saying we should all just use AI docs. They are the same thing. Taught by the conforming medical literature and at least currently incapable of original thought so will just conform. If that’s what most docs are good for then turn the AI docs loose and watch the price of medical drop like a rock. We may not get better or non conforming care but at least it would be cheap. Of course the AMA cartel will go kicking and screaming into that future.
Remember as well these facilities were financially incentivized in a BIG way to make sure the wuh flu diagnosis was made. I know its a cynical slant, but with what we all SAW play out its not a stretch to consider either.
Many did know it was NOT right, but because of pressure in being peer ostracized, loss of income fear, position fear or losing a license they BIT their lip and went along. In essence they chose the cowardice fork in the road!
For precisely the same reasons that Germans did what the NAZIs told them to do. That Japanese did what the Imperial government told them to do. That Chinese did what Mao told them to do. That North Koreans did what Kim told them to do. We need not understand the precise inner workings of the phenomena. It's sufficient to see that the phenomena repeats.
Chairman Mao taught us: "Political power emanates from the barrel of a gun." Remember that the next time you entertain the thought that just one more common sense gun control law might save an innocent life. Then, read RJ Rummel's epic work "Death by Government".
Yes, I was a coward. I didn't speak up as much as I wanted. I never conformed, I rarely (maybe 3 times) wore a mask (I just took the disgusted looks from people or didn't go to stores.) The few times I spoke up (mostly related to masking kids and closing schools) I was slammed. I greatly feared losing my income (I'm an author, and cancel culture is real) because I am the sole support of my family and elderly mom. So coward, yes, but I had to weigh the pros and cons and whether anything I said would have made a difference. If FaceBook shut down my personal page because I said something that was "anti-science", it would have de facto shut down my author profile, and I would have lost 60K+ readers. One warning was enough to keep me quiet. I'm mad at myself, but I don't know if I could have done anything different at the time. Shutting down the country already had a negative impact on my income.
I hear you, and no judgment here. We were all to some degree subjected to the monstrous power of government, colluding with a puppet media. My greatest scorn is for my profession which knew better. Doctors were the camp guards herding all of society onto the boxcars, and damn us for it.
You were not a coward, you acted in the best interests of you and your family. One person cannot make the world go un-crazy no matter what you do, let alone by exposing yourself to financial or reputational harm. The insanity happened all at once, and went away one person at a time.
Alex’s experience shows this was not a theoretical concern. He was kicked off twitter, and only by a miracle was he allowed back on. He was able to (I hope) make good money on this substack and on his covid related books, but that has to be regarded as the exception to the rule.
It is what THEY hoped people would do as you know. The mafia like coercion and psyop of so many minds was real as the mongers were able to get people to PRESSURE others like you to DO something against your will so to speak! That aspect alone in my opinion is a CRIME against humanity and prosecutions should have been made. The NARRATIVE was always intentional and yet no one has paid the price since.
Most doctors work for a health care system. That health care system has codes...billing codes. You get paid by following how the protocols set forth by your boss and billing codes. They have too much to lose so they " go along".
Yes, I do have insight as to why doctors were, and continue to be, so irrational. Ask yourself a simple question: How did you come to know what you know; or, rather, what you think you know? It's because you learned as a small child to trust that what your mother told you was true. And then, what your elementary school teachers told you was true. And so forth.
Now, a young person has gone through 20-some years of life learning that the truth is what they have been told. And then they enter Med School. They are told to borrow $250,000 on the chance that they will complete Med School and residency to get a license to practice. They MUST pass all their exams, repeating what they have been told. They are behaving perfectly rationally. They are indoctrinated in precisely the same way as residents in communist countries are indoctrinated. There is no way to survive (and pay off their loans) but to accept as Vatican-prolimated TRUTH, given ex cathedra. Who could survive this with rational skepticism remaining? You couldn't. Probably I couldn't.
Observe how few doctors protested, such as Drs. Atlas and Kory. The evidence is squarely in front of us. We lay protestants were able to survive with our skepticism intact because we did not borrow $250,000 to get through med school. The process of indoctrination did not complete. It did not hermetically seal our minds.
I see how the system selects for extreme conformity in medicine. And their response to Covid was similar to how they treated Barry Marshall when he cured ulcers. He showed the cause was not what was everyone else had assumed, and was shunned by his colleagues. Fortunately, he eventually was awarded a Nobel. Ignaz Semmelweis, on the other hand, saved many lives by washing his hands between patients and was punished to the point that he died penniless.
Solid points and no doubt more true than not in what you say, but at the same time I believe all of us has been given an ability (by GOD) to exercise the use of FREE thought and critical thought. At no point in my life did I accept something at face value unless pure common sense. I went through the process you mention as have other's in the health-medical field, but never did I become a zombie like mind losing the ability to question and differentiate as I always push back IF my spidey sense told me so!
I whole heartedly agree with you. This is how we learn as people. If you are taught to do it wrong how would you even know. You have to actually think independently once in a while.
I also live in Florida but was a federal employee who was subjected to involuntary vaccination which I refused and had to take weekly PCR tests while my medical and religious exemption requests were being processed. I never got an answer one way or the other by the time the federal judge applied the injunction stopping the mandatory vaccinations.
I blame Obama and Obamacare for at least some (if not most) of the complicity of doctors in the covid jab mania. After Obamacare, the move from independent doctors to doctors being employees of huge hospitals either started or accelerated. I strongly suspect that a lot of doctors made the same calculation you did and decided they needed the job/money more than their integrity. That might be harsh since they had bills to pay and possibly families to raise but if they had serious reservations or even hard data of the jab's dangerous side effects or even their ineffectiveness, I think at least the oath they took should compel them to be honest. At the same time, I highly suspect that they were fed a lot of unicorns and sunshine about the jabs so a lot of those doctors were working from a position of ignorance and so my only complaint about them is that they didn't take the time to critically evaluate what those jabs did.
The roots of this evil grew from the horrible Medicare program, which has been a cancer on our economy, our politics, and on the idea of a society based on and for the individual. Anyone who supports Medicare by definition supports government control of their health care.
I agree with you about Medicare and I'd extend it to all the rest of the "welfare" programs. I based my opinion on the fact that I know of several doctors who could not afford the time or money to comply with the documentary edicts in Obamacare (hardware, software, time, etc.) and in at least one case chose to retire and sell her practice rather than spend her time and money following edits rather than treating patients. I also heard lots of stories about how doctors, nurses, and even patients were required to get the jab (and presumably promote it - something an independent doctor would be free to ignore or even reject) because of hospital policy. In fact, your story implies you faced a similar situation.
But in the end, I have to defer to you. I am not a doctor or even in the broader medical community.
All good points. And in some cases, even independent docs who recommended against wearing those idiotic masks had their medical licenses threatened by state medical boards.
This has not been a good or honest profession for years, and it keeps getting worse. I’d never recommend going into medicine to any young person.
Sorry (not sorry), there won’t be blood - not calling the doubtful, the cautious, the COVID antivaxxers sheep/sheeple, but it’s not our nature, at least not yet. How many riots broke out over the arrests of inbetweenPOTUS Trump, riots over him getting shot, the unjust imprisonment of so many of the J6’ers, etc. Gonna be surprised if there’s nothing similar tonight over the conviction and sentencing of the cold blooded killer today.
To be sure, I’m working on a story where something does happen, but the circumstances involve a natural disaster, a runaway SCOTUS, and an out of control Democrat Congress. A vaccination scenario just ain’t gonna cut it. Sorry.
Oh, Ryan, don’t go and do something stupid (even if you think it’s justified).
Never been arrested in my life. But you can bet your bottom dollar if they were to mess with my kids again...well...I said what I said. Damn the consequences.
Most of us Americans don't "go and do something stupid (even [when we] think it's justified)." Nevertheless, there are 100 million of us who retain the means to do so. And, some of these retain the willingness to do so if we were to be shoved far enough. These are of the caliber who voted for independence and fought the Revolutionary War.
I had the same thought - not literal bloodshed, but non-compliance until faced with arrest. I had two experiences of store owners who called the police because I wasn’t wearing a mask. They told me to leave and I did. It would not have done any good to have been arrested.
I will say this till the cows come home (and they never do):
Doctors made the pandemic worse, elongated it which further increased the damage, and as a profession betrayed en masse their ethical obligations, their patients, and society at large.
I am a full-time ER doc, worked throughout the Great Virus Panic, lost patients, colleagues, and family to the damn virus. No, I’m not an idiot “denier.” But my profession made it all worse, and I am disgusted by them.
My husband’s doctor would not treat him! I found someone to give him a Zpak and prednisone when his O2sat was 84! Thank God for that person, my husband recovered. I’m a retired nurse and DO NOT trust the system anymore🥲
I was not able to join this conversation. I spoke with a speech-language pathologist who is now seeing children damaged by interminable masking and isolation requirements. The children cannot pronounce words properly, nor read well, and have behavioral problems. These issues are going to be lifelong problems for these children. The inhumane idiots who did this to those children hide behind bureaucratic barriers and refuse to face citizens.
Shameful. And the teachers unions demanded it for kids even though all the data has already shown kids rarely go infected, didn't get very sick if they did, and didn't die from it.
My daughter left teaching in 2106 to become a nurse. Just this year she decided to go back to teaching, 6th grade science. So her 11 year olds were heavily affected by covid, especially in their first few years of school. She is horrified at the difference she sees in 6th graders now compared to 2016. There are virtually no actual schoolbooks, everything is done on a Chromebook assigned to each student. They can barely read so they don't read anything except what they have to. Their eyes are glued to their computers and it's hard to keep them on task without them sneaking off into other websites. Their concentration skills are almost zero. They have incredibly limited attention spans. They can barely sit still in their seats for 5 minutes. They don't think it's important to do their work and don't care about the school's pathetically weak "consequences" for either not doing work or for bad behavior (consisting of "losing points" or a visit to the principal's office...a principal who is scared of the students and their parents). So basically zero consequences for anything at all, and they know it. And then you have certain pushy parents (always parents of the problem kids) who want the teacher to give their kids good or at least passing grades even if they fail, even if they do no work at all. And each year kids are passed on to the next grade because no one can fail. That is how you end up with high school graduates who can't read or do math. Nobody is ever kicked out for bad behavior, and they are kept in the classes to disrupt learning for those who do want to learn and who work hard. The school has a "special day class" for a mix of very problematic students. They assigned a brand new teacher to that class, a young 26 year old woman. One student pushed her in uncontrolled rage about something and the teacher ended up with a broken wrist. No repercussions for the student, however. The school year just ended, and after her very first year teaching she is not coming back. She could have been a wonderful teacher, but now she's gone.
Thankfully, not all kids are like this. But my daughter says a scary percentage of them are, perhaps as much as 30%. She says she fully expects to read about some of them in the crime section of the newspaper in a few years.
I think there is a huge story yet to be told about what is happening in elementary schools. How much of the school disaster is due to covid, getting shots, the paranoia in society, school closures, or all of the above has not yet been fully understood or studied yet. It seems like people are afraid to go there because it's pretty bad.
I was part of the chat today and very happy to spend the time to do so. My wife and I had a long conversation afterwards about why it seems so few people at the time could see what was going on. By that I mean that the overarching goal of the establishment was control and power, not health and protection for citizens. This was clear to me from the very beginning. This was not a Spanish flu or a Hong Kong flu or anything that resembles that kind of lethality. Children were virtually unaffected by the virus, and yet were the worst treated having schools closed, being forced to wear masks and basically destroying a large portion of their childhood. Not to mention vaccinated. The entire working bureaucracy in the United States consolidated their efforts to stop people from going to church, closing schools, keeping small businesses from being able to function while leaving Walmart and Costco's open, destroying the livelihoods of millions of Americans. Why it is that this was so evident so early to me and yet impossible for others to comprehend? The best my wife and I came up with is that I came from heritage of immigrants that escaped tyranny. My Russian grandparents escaped the Communist revolution in 1917, my German grandparents on my father's side escaped the chaos following the first world war. They had relatives who did not. They had stories that I remember as a child hearing about how power works. I suppose that made me more sensitive and alert to the code words and behaviors of autocratic and bureaucratic tyranny. We have dumbed down two or three generations of Americans who have no idea what freedom is worth and the cost that it takes to keep it. They live in a comfortable pampered country. And even the COVID response didn't wake most of them up. My visceral reaction every time I see someone wearing a mask is to slap the shit out of them. My favorite of course was watching people riding bicycles alone outside and driving in their cars alone and wearing those miserable face diapers.
I was kicked out of the workforce in 2021 for refusing the vaccine. When I’m asked when I retired, I answer that I didn’t; I was forced out of work by Joe Biden and his mandate. I was very angry for a long time. I’m still angry that this country was so full of easily manipulated people, but now my “retirement” is a story I happily share. And I say just like that: I was kicked out of the workforce.
And, great timing: from today's Steven Hayward Substack Midweek Notebook -
• You owe it to yourself to set aside 35 minutes of your time to take in “The Lockdown Skeptics,” a mini-documentary produced by Michael Pack (one of the few conservative documentarians around) and hosted by the Wall Street Journal. I have been saying since the very start that our entire Covid policy would turn out to be possibly the largest single public policy error of the last 100 years (the New Deal begs to differ, I know), or at the very least certainly the largest public health policy blunder ever. But it was revealing of the way in which the government lies to us, suppresses honest dissent, and embraces compulsion on behalf of ancillary goals (like “anti-racism,” supposedly because “racism” is a “public health crisis”). Few things the government has ever done has so fully revealed its mendacious character. And this film reminds us why we should remain in a white hot rage about it.
Sorry I missed the chat. I was naive at first. I actually believed the vaccine would work. Over time, it became obvious that it didn’t. My wife and I are retired. We enjoyed traveling. To do that, one needed the “booster.” We got it so we could travel. I regret doing it.
Thank you for continuing to fight the fight on this.
Got the initial dose plus first booster for travel purposes as well as work mandate. But I sometimes wonder if I’m the only one at my office who hasn’t had any boosters since.
Same here. Work mandated the first round for everyone. I avoided going into the office to avoid having to get any boosters. They eventually softened the requirements. I know for a fact that some coworkers and their young children are still getting boosters this year. Blows my mind, makes me sick to my stomach. I hate that I took the first round but at the time really didn’t see a way out of it. Will fight it like crazy next time.
They will never apologize. Never. Why would they? As far as they can tell, they survived the Spanish Flu of 1918 through sheer, heroic virtue alone. What incentive is there to ditch that narrative and make themselves the villains? Nope. Not one person has ever apologized to me. Just the opposite.
I couldn't join today, but I'd be interested in an in-person event. (I don't like online meetings.) I'm no longer angry or expecting any dawning of the light. One close friend apologized last year for not being there during those years (unvaxxed, he had a deep depression), but that's it. Many friends and friends of friends have had weird health issues or died. I've said what I could to people. Some were grateful. Others stared at me, sobered. I'm back to talking to everyone and am very engaged again socially. Also I'm meeting more likeminded people lately, which is nice. But I know I can only truly count on one of my sisters. I'm not jaded, just a bit sad, and the rosy glasses are in a drawer.
Here in Australia there were unscrupulous people who were charging $4000 Australian per shot which went down the drain not into your arm and then doing the paperwork so you could keep your job and not be jabbed. I know of policeman, firemen and pilots who did it. Thats what we were pushed into. A shameful time in history.
In the 6/10/26 "chat" which I couldn't attend, you told a mental health provider you'd like to know more about how mandate fever afflicted that profession. I can tell you that my license would have been in danger had I spoken up with clients in a lockdown state (fortunately I'm licensed in a few states, which allowed me to work more freely). Even now, *most* providers shun me for being anti-Covid vax. *Most* licensing bureaus would disapprove (wherever that might go). >>>> Imagine how clients feel when there's no "safe space" - even your therapist won't validate your concerns?!? Thank God for writers like you, brave doctors and the FLCCC (now IMA). But who's helping people who lacked knowledge of these resources? Who's helping family members coping with vax-caused afflictions and deaths? Who's validating the righteous anger, the grief, the need for advocacy, now? It's not like sympatico providers can advertise, safely, professionally speaking. PFFFT.
I have no idea how chat things work so I wasn’t even attempting to sign up or sign in, but I value the importance of the connection and feeling heard and validated and sharing feelings as I’ve mentioned in another comment after your essay. It’s necessary and golden.
What I really came here to say was as somebody in a very small Island Community who was quite clear and vocal about not needing nor wanting to take an experimental shot that I did not need as a healthy 53 year old woman then, I have never had one person say they were sorry or they were wrong or they had subsequently heard more information along the lines of what I was trying to explain regarding my beliefs and choices. What I have heard four times now, is people reinventing their history or their memory of why they took jabs despite what they were saying quite clearly and strongly to me at the time! The first time it happened it was gobsmacking but fortunately a like-minded friend was in the gathering with me so we were able to discuss it after they left and had the same memory of the qualifications at the time. And then it happened again and then again! I suspect others will probably have had the same experience of people who were sneering or shunning you or pretending to believe in your choice later saying well they didn’t want to take it but they had to et cetera when they were quite clear that they felt everyone should be taking it at the time. Grrrrrr! My absolute favourite quote of all time came from a woman who is quite a formidable presence in our community, “well thanks for letting us know Sam because we need to know who the unvaccinated are“. And so it went. An unforgettable four years. The cherry on the top when the first few people on the island dropped dead of heart attacks those of us unvaccinated were not allowed to attend the funerals/celebrations. Of course there’s no proof et cetera, but oh the irony.
As a coach of high school rowing in 2020, the effects and impact on my athletes was devastating. Bright happy athletes were denied their school, their friends and their sport. Seniors missed graduations. We could go on and on, but the cohort of Zoomers, isn’t going to forget or forgive. There is hope in their resilience, in their well earned skepticism. Where and how they chose to make decisions going forward with tell us all a lot. My fervent hope is that they kick the Boomers to the curb, (me included) that they kick their X’er parents right in the ass, for being sheep and cowards, and that they weed out the weak Y’ers, and those two generations go forward with stiffened resolve to never let this happen again. We can all do something which is encourage the various powers in control of the flight deck to run these creeps and cretin’s who foisted the whole lie and performance theatre upon the USA, and the world into prison. Though jail seems to good for them, 3 hots and a cot are a gift, but it would be a start. If another pandemic is brought forward it will divide the Nation, and as we learn from the ancient philosophers once the dialectic starts no one knows where it will end. So it would be best to avoid finding out.
Traumatized people find comfort in sharing their stories. Unfortunately most of us did not get an apology for how we were treated and could give two fucks about those that chose "the state" over their loved ones.
I think my deepest reflection in hindsight is that normies still do not understand if the overlords and petty tyrants try that shit again, THERE WILL BE BLOOD...and assholes just like me will be first in line.
There's more than enough of us to wreak utter havoc.
Spread it around. My friends get it now, but I don't think most folks do............
I remember seeing your name here and on other related sites - and I’m ready to be an asshole again, if necessary. I was called exactly that by a number of people because I wasn’t wearing a mask, and will be willing do so again.
Yup. I said what I said and I mean it.
Bravo to you mate for taking a stand!
My regret is that I did not do enough. I’m retired and have some FU money and so can say whatever I want. I tried to join some groups around the Charlotte area that were fighting the insanity, especially with regard to masking children, but we didn’t organize effectively.
I decided one thing I could do is support people like Alex who were suddenly in the spotlight and targeted because they were trying to tell the truth.
Yeah. The forced-masking of children was downright evil. I had twin 9 year olds. So we fought it tooth and nail. Ultimately the only way was to pick up and leave CA for FL in July of 20'. Best decision of our lives.
We don’t have children, but whenever I saw a child wearing a mask, I just wanted to scream. The people responsible for that were cowards and fools. I wish I could personally shame them, but it seemed that almost everyone was complicit, which is why I think nobody has been held accountable.
Moving your family across country had to have been a traumatic experience. It was grossly unfair to families with small children, thankfully your family thrived but there were so many others who lacked your resources and are still in a place where children are seen as hazards.
Yes, children wearing masks WRONG!!!!!!- not being in school. All of it. Stupid. Doing nothing or just stay home for couple weeks if you get sick.
I may have given parts of this bio before, but I worked at a Home Depot. Sold out all the masks from Jan to the end of Feb 2020 - to Asians who sent them to China!!! Yes!! it was my dept. I asked them. I bought last N95 3pc set we had, sent it to my daughter-in-law who worked in ICU at a major hospital out of state. She said they had issued her ONE, to re-use!!! (Those mask shelves remained EMPTY for months. The painters, etc had nothing to buy.)
Nothing changed in our store at first. They put up moving boxes outside our counters to keep customers further away. Customers would still hand us paint lids, phones (pictures of rooms, etc) Lots of antiseptic on counters. Then Plexiglass shields. We went from 'light traffic store' to VERY BUSY, because nobody could go anywhere except grocery or home stores ('ESSENTIAL', don't you know!!. at least they didn't close our 'non-essential' depts like MI Home Depot's were forced. Totally stupid.)
After 1st employee's spouse contracted the virus (~Apr '20), she had to stay home a couple weeks. JULY 22, 2020 was 1st day we were REQUIRED to Mask. I eventually contracted covid Dec 28. Never got jab. I would have (could have) quit when mandate looked imminent Dec 2021. -Remember? Businesses over 100 employees. THAT never happened.
And I was in a rather OPEN mid-west state. From everything I SAW, it was all a joke as far as any rationale. The day a little child (about 6) came a little late into Mass (School kids came on Thurs). Maybe Fall 2020. Teacher/all of us masked. I pulled my mask down to smile at her. Couldn't imagine trying to be a little student through all that. Cruel. I've taught a lot of little children.
All the FORCED-or-lose-your-job, etc etc. Just a CRIME against sanity and humanity.
I had a relative who had celebrated her father's 90th b'day in NJ VA residence Feb 2020. He was very healthy. In late March he got sniffles, they quarantined him OUT of his private room to the 'covid wing'. He died 4 days later. They lived out of state. They WEREN'T TOLD he was moved. They couldn't have a funeral. Their daughter's Oct 2020 wedding - virtually cancelled/ only 6 or 8 present outdoors. I shudder to think of ALL the unknown ???? that was perpetrated.
I know it wasn't the horror of holocaust, or genocide now in Nigeria, many worse atrocities in history, but the SCALE, the pompous lies, never again.
I am SO GRATEFUL for Alex - and others - disseminating TRUTH, for community of eyes-open people.
"People perish for lack of knowledge."
I regret I didn't do enough as well. I'm self-employed and was very worried about losing income, especially with at the time 3 kids who were dependent on me. Now I only have 1 dependent, but I'm also caring for my elderly mom. Getting cancelled could have killed my career. It was rather terrifying.
Yep, even those of us who resisted...we still put up with A LOT. Never again. I do think if they tried something like this again, it would be game over for our country. So much of the social cohesion is gone now. For those of us with a brian in our heads, there is not much out there to defend. Protect your family. Unite with like minded people. The rest will fail.
I remember walking around inside a supermarket being the only person not masked up. It felt so strange seeing everyone so obedient and scared of a virus no more threatening than the flu. I really hope that if the powers that never should be ever try that shit again I won’t be alone in resisting.
Yes. Totally surreal. It was like watching animals at the zoo breathing their own fear.
The lesson is they don't even need a virus to accomplish the same thing.
It was histories only perfect proof of concept exercise.
The product was control. It was bought wholesale.
The peeps passed with flying colors. And they'd probably REsheep...REbleat...REbleat...
I'm still not convinced that "covid" was anything more than a perhaps worse than usual yearly flu that was co-opted for the purpose. There were early scientist reports about the furin cleavage site in the virus that could not occur naturally. So perhaps it was the leak of a manipulated virus combined with the yearly flu for effect. We still don't know for sure.
The big story not yet fully revealed is exactly how the instant worldwide narrative was planned and created, why it was created, and by which groups of players, probably many more culprits than we yet know. The way it all started was unbelievably suspicious, and to this day I'm glad my BS meter was alive and well because there were a lot of clues early on. Certain things leaked out but were quickly suppressed and most people never read about them. Yesterday I saw a repeat of a Chinese shock video clip we were all fed in 2020...a man standing on the street corner and suddenly toppling over face first. It looked shocking, but I re-ran the clip so see if his face and head hit the concrete and lo and behold, at the right moment he had his hands in the right place to break the fall. If I had to guess, I would say he was a martial arts expert who knew how to fall like that. Another suspicious thing was how at one point "experts" were claiming the yearly flu had mysteriously "disappeared". B.S. on that one too. There were so many things.
In any case, what was most horrifying to watch was how meek and complicit and mindlessly obedient so many people became, and how quickly they got in line. Never underestimate the power of fear.
Me too. Literally the only one in the store. One time the manager said ‘may I offer you a mask?’ I don’t appreciate being treated like a plague rat, I don’t believe he enjoyed my comments that followed.
I'm 100% with you. Not backing down if this happens again. A couple of my vax loving friends know how I feel, the ones I felt I could be honest with. But the others are going to hear from me if we have a repeat.
I was prepared to quit my job as an ER doc and face serious financial risk before getting that damn dangerous shot. All that saved me was that I lived in Florida.
Do you have any insights as to why doctors were so irrational? I had always assumed that doctors would be rational and caring, but as a group they seemed to be the most hysterical.
Sadly, physicians are in so many ways self-selected conformists, the mindset needed to get through basically a decade of regimentation, scrutiny, completion, and long, long hours. Most of us learn early to do what is needed to survive, and that includes blending in, and not sticking your head up when not necessary. We are trained in the (actual) science of vaccines, then told incessantly that the actual approved though resides with the CDC, FDA, NIH, AOM, ABMS, et al ad nauseam. We conform to the demands of Big Insurance, Big Hospital, and of course Big Government, forever, amen. They can ALL cut your pay off, submit you to your state medical board to threaten your license, or even threaten harsh financial and/or criminal penalties.
But no, NONE of that excuses willfully ignoring informed consent for patients, or the duty to think rationally and independently (something patients claim they want, but they don’t). Beyond all the coercion, too many physicians will just accept what they’re told and then work to enforce it, becoming the camp guards herding patients into box cars. What we were told about the virus, risks, available treatments, and that damn shot was largely contrary to our medical training, and our profession still didn’t question or push back. We were caught unawares, felt fearful, looked to those in power over us, and were panicked and used to stampede society. All because doctors largely reacted to fear, rather than lead with calm as we were supposedly trained.
Excellent answer - depressing, but accurate and honest.
I am a doctor that had stopped promoting all the vaccines made with aborted Human fetal lung tissue culture. I did not become aware of those until about 2000-2002. We weren't told of that. I only heard about the chicken pox vaccine. I remembered the heavy handed promotion of that vaccine with posters of very sick children in the ICU with tubes everywhere telling parents that unless they get their children the Varivax, their child would end up in the ICU extremely ill. Only later did I discover the fact that the Varivax has fetal DNA fragments. I knew immediately that using aborted Human fetal lung tissue culture was immoral and unethical. (It is still going on big time in our children.) So it took me about 10 seconds to know that the covid "vaccines" were bad, evil and not to be taken. Not because they contain human fetal DNA which they probably don't but because they weren't proven safe, they were using modified mRNA and the people promoting them were not ethical. If someone thinks killing the innocent unborn is ok, do not trust that person with anything having to do with your health. You are less innocent than the unborn. Lots of problems here.
So your saying we should all just use AI docs. They are the same thing. Taught by the conforming medical literature and at least currently incapable of original thought so will just conform. If that’s what most docs are good for then turn the AI docs loose and watch the price of medical drop like a rock. We may not get better or non conforming care but at least it would be cheap. Of course the AMA cartel will go kicking and screaming into that future.
Remember as well these facilities were financially incentivized in a BIG way to make sure the wuh flu diagnosis was made. I know its a cynical slant, but with what we all SAW play out its not a stretch to consider either.
Many did know it was NOT right, but because of pressure in being peer ostracized, loss of income fear, position fear or losing a license they BIT their lip and went along. In essence they chose the cowardice fork in the road!
Very true, but how did this happen? Why did the doctors who were in charge of the licensing turn into such tyrants?
Those who were in senior positions should have been the most wise, but they were in fact the most hysterical.
For precisely the same reasons that Germans did what the NAZIs told them to do. That Japanese did what the Imperial government told them to do. That Chinese did what Mao told them to do. That North Koreans did what Kim told them to do. We need not understand the precise inner workings of the phenomena. It's sufficient to see that the phenomena repeats.
Chairman Mao taught us: "Political power emanates from the barrel of a gun." Remember that the next time you entertain the thought that just one more common sense gun control law might save an innocent life. Then, read RJ Rummel's epic work "Death by Government".
Then, you will have the answer to your question.
Yes, I was a coward. I didn't speak up as much as I wanted. I never conformed, I rarely (maybe 3 times) wore a mask (I just took the disgusted looks from people or didn't go to stores.) The few times I spoke up (mostly related to masking kids and closing schools) I was slammed. I greatly feared losing my income (I'm an author, and cancel culture is real) because I am the sole support of my family and elderly mom. So coward, yes, but I had to weigh the pros and cons and whether anything I said would have made a difference. If FaceBook shut down my personal page because I said something that was "anti-science", it would have de facto shut down my author profile, and I would have lost 60K+ readers. One warning was enough to keep me quiet. I'm mad at myself, but I don't know if I could have done anything different at the time. Shutting down the country already had a negative impact on my income.
I hear you, and no judgment here. We were all to some degree subjected to the monstrous power of government, colluding with a puppet media. My greatest scorn is for my profession which knew better. Doctors were the camp guards herding all of society onto the boxcars, and damn us for it.
You were not a coward, you acted in the best interests of you and your family. One person cannot make the world go un-crazy no matter what you do, let alone by exposing yourself to financial or reputational harm. The insanity happened all at once, and went away one person at a time.
Alex’s experience shows this was not a theoretical concern. He was kicked off twitter, and only by a miracle was he allowed back on. He was able to (I hope) make good money on this substack and on his covid related books, but that has to be regarded as the exception to the rule.
It is what THEY hoped people would do as you know. The mafia like coercion and psyop of so many minds was real as the mongers were able to get people to PRESSURE others like you to DO something against your will so to speak! That aspect alone in my opinion is a CRIME against humanity and prosecutions should have been made. The NARRATIVE was always intentional and yet no one has paid the price since.
Most doctors work for a health care system. That health care system has codes...billing codes. You get paid by following how the protocols set forth by your boss and billing codes. They have too much to lose so they " go along".
Yes, I do have insight as to why doctors were, and continue to be, so irrational. Ask yourself a simple question: How did you come to know what you know; or, rather, what you think you know? It's because you learned as a small child to trust that what your mother told you was true. And then, what your elementary school teachers told you was true. And so forth.
Now, a young person has gone through 20-some years of life learning that the truth is what they have been told. And then they enter Med School. They are told to borrow $250,000 on the chance that they will complete Med School and residency to get a license to practice. They MUST pass all their exams, repeating what they have been told. They are behaving perfectly rationally. They are indoctrinated in precisely the same way as residents in communist countries are indoctrinated. There is no way to survive (and pay off their loans) but to accept as Vatican-prolimated TRUTH, given ex cathedra. Who could survive this with rational skepticism remaining? You couldn't. Probably I couldn't.
Observe how few doctors protested, such as Drs. Atlas and Kory. The evidence is squarely in front of us. We lay protestants were able to survive with our skepticism intact because we did not borrow $250,000 to get through med school. The process of indoctrination did not complete. It did not hermetically seal our minds.
I see how the system selects for extreme conformity in medicine. And their response to Covid was similar to how they treated Barry Marshall when he cured ulcers. He showed the cause was not what was everyone else had assumed, and was shunned by his colleagues. Fortunately, he eventually was awarded a Nobel. Ignaz Semmelweis, on the other hand, saved many lives by washing his hands between patients and was punished to the point that he died penniless.
Solid points and no doubt more true than not in what you say, but at the same time I believe all of us has been given an ability (by GOD) to exercise the use of FREE thought and critical thought. At no point in my life did I accept something at face value unless pure common sense. I went through the process you mention as have other's in the health-medical field, but never did I become a zombie like mind losing the ability to question and differentiate as I always push back IF my spidey sense told me so!
I whole heartedly agree with you. This is how we learn as people. If you are taught to do it wrong how would you even know. You have to actually think independently once in a while.
So in the end we learn that, generally speaking, doctors are just like the rest of us and never deserved the exalted status this society gave them.
We certainly threw away any justification for it.
I also live in Florida but was a federal employee who was subjected to involuntary vaccination which I refused and had to take weekly PCR tests while my medical and religious exemption requests were being processed. I never got an answer one way or the other by the time the federal judge applied the injunction stopping the mandatory vaccinations.
I blame Obama and Obamacare for at least some (if not most) of the complicity of doctors in the covid jab mania. After Obamacare, the move from independent doctors to doctors being employees of huge hospitals either started or accelerated. I strongly suspect that a lot of doctors made the same calculation you did and decided they needed the job/money more than their integrity. That might be harsh since they had bills to pay and possibly families to raise but if they had serious reservations or even hard data of the jab's dangerous side effects or even their ineffectiveness, I think at least the oath they took should compel them to be honest. At the same time, I highly suspect that they were fed a lot of unicorns and sunshine about the jabs so a lot of those doctors were working from a position of ignorance and so my only complaint about them is that they didn't take the time to critically evaluate what those jabs did.
I despise Obama, but must disagree.
The roots of this evil grew from the horrible Medicare program, which has been a cancer on our economy, our politics, and on the idea of a society based on and for the individual. Anyone who supports Medicare by definition supports government control of their health care.
I agree with you about Medicare and I'd extend it to all the rest of the "welfare" programs. I based my opinion on the fact that I know of several doctors who could not afford the time or money to comply with the documentary edicts in Obamacare (hardware, software, time, etc.) and in at least one case chose to retire and sell her practice rather than spend her time and money following edits rather than treating patients. I also heard lots of stories about how doctors, nurses, and even patients were required to get the jab (and presumably promote it - something an independent doctor would be free to ignore or even reject) because of hospital policy. In fact, your story implies you faced a similar situation.
But in the end, I have to defer to you. I am not a doctor or even in the broader medical community.
All good points. And in some cases, even independent docs who recommended against wearing those idiotic masks had their medical licenses threatened by state medical boards.
This has not been a good or honest profession for years, and it keeps getting worse. I’d never recommend going into medicine to any young person.
That's why the Right of the People to keep and bear arms is not to be infringed.
Sorry (not sorry), there won’t be blood - not calling the doubtful, the cautious, the COVID antivaxxers sheep/sheeple, but it’s not our nature, at least not yet. How many riots broke out over the arrests of inbetweenPOTUS Trump, riots over him getting shot, the unjust imprisonment of so many of the J6’ers, etc. Gonna be surprised if there’s nothing similar tonight over the conviction and sentencing of the cold blooded killer today.
To be sure, I’m working on a story where something does happen, but the circumstances involve a natural disaster, a runaway SCOTUS, and an out of control Democrat Congress. A vaccination scenario just ain’t gonna cut it. Sorry.
Oh, Ryan, don’t go and do something stupid (even if you think it’s justified).
Never been arrested in my life. But you can bet your bottom dollar if they were to mess with my kids again...well...I said what I said. Damn the consequences.
Most of us Americans don't "go and do something stupid (even [when we] think it's justified)." Nevertheless, there are 100 million of us who retain the means to do so. And, some of these retain the willingness to do so if we were to be shoved far enough. These are of the caliber who voted for independence and fought the Revolutionary War.
I had the same thought - not literal bloodshed, but non-compliance until faced with arrest. I had two experiences of store owners who called the police because I wasn’t wearing a mask. They told me to leave and I did. It would not have done any good to have been arrested.
We are here.
Sounds like a plan. When do we start?
Lolol. Yesterday!
I will say this till the cows come home (and they never do):
Doctors made the pandemic worse, elongated it which further increased the damage, and as a profession betrayed en masse their ethical obligations, their patients, and society at large.
I am a full-time ER doc, worked throughout the Great Virus Panic, lost patients, colleagues, and family to the damn virus. No, I’m not an idiot “denier.” But my profession made it all worse, and I am disgusted by them.
My husband’s doctor would not treat him! I found someone to give him a Zpak and prednisone when his O2sat was 84! Thank God for that person, my husband recovered. I’m a retired nurse and DO NOT trust the system anymore🥲
I was not able to join this conversation. I spoke with a speech-language pathologist who is now seeing children damaged by interminable masking and isolation requirements. The children cannot pronounce words properly, nor read well, and have behavioral problems. These issues are going to be lifelong problems for these children. The inhumane idiots who did this to those children hide behind bureaucratic barriers and refuse to face citizens.
Shameful. And the teachers unions demanded it for kids even though all the data has already shown kids rarely go infected, didn't get very sick if they did, and didn't die from it.
Shame on Teachers unions.
My daughter left teaching in 2106 to become a nurse. Just this year she decided to go back to teaching, 6th grade science. So her 11 year olds were heavily affected by covid, especially in their first few years of school. She is horrified at the difference she sees in 6th graders now compared to 2016. There are virtually no actual schoolbooks, everything is done on a Chromebook assigned to each student. They can barely read so they don't read anything except what they have to. Their eyes are glued to their computers and it's hard to keep them on task without them sneaking off into other websites. Their concentration skills are almost zero. They have incredibly limited attention spans. They can barely sit still in their seats for 5 minutes. They don't think it's important to do their work and don't care about the school's pathetically weak "consequences" for either not doing work or for bad behavior (consisting of "losing points" or a visit to the principal's office...a principal who is scared of the students and their parents). So basically zero consequences for anything at all, and they know it. And then you have certain pushy parents (always parents of the problem kids) who want the teacher to give their kids good or at least passing grades even if they fail, even if they do no work at all. And each year kids are passed on to the next grade because no one can fail. That is how you end up with high school graduates who can't read or do math. Nobody is ever kicked out for bad behavior, and they are kept in the classes to disrupt learning for those who do want to learn and who work hard. The school has a "special day class" for a mix of very problematic students. They assigned a brand new teacher to that class, a young 26 year old woman. One student pushed her in uncontrolled rage about something and the teacher ended up with a broken wrist. No repercussions for the student, however. The school year just ended, and after her very first year teaching she is not coming back. She could have been a wonderful teacher, but now she's gone.
Thankfully, not all kids are like this. But my daughter says a scary percentage of them are, perhaps as much as 30%. She says she fully expects to read about some of them in the crime section of the newspaper in a few years.
I think there is a huge story yet to be told about what is happening in elementary schools. How much of the school disaster is due to covid, getting shots, the paranoia in society, school closures, or all of the above has not yet been fully understood or studied yet. It seems like people are afraid to go there because it's pretty bad.
I was part of the chat today and very happy to spend the time to do so. My wife and I had a long conversation afterwards about why it seems so few people at the time could see what was going on. By that I mean that the overarching goal of the establishment was control and power, not health and protection for citizens. This was clear to me from the very beginning. This was not a Spanish flu or a Hong Kong flu or anything that resembles that kind of lethality. Children were virtually unaffected by the virus, and yet were the worst treated having schools closed, being forced to wear masks and basically destroying a large portion of their childhood. Not to mention vaccinated. The entire working bureaucracy in the United States consolidated their efforts to stop people from going to church, closing schools, keeping small businesses from being able to function while leaving Walmart and Costco's open, destroying the livelihoods of millions of Americans. Why it is that this was so evident so early to me and yet impossible for others to comprehend? The best my wife and I came up with is that I came from heritage of immigrants that escaped tyranny. My Russian grandparents escaped the Communist revolution in 1917, my German grandparents on my father's side escaped the chaos following the first world war. They had relatives who did not. They had stories that I remember as a child hearing about how power works. I suppose that made me more sensitive and alert to the code words and behaviors of autocratic and bureaucratic tyranny. We have dumbed down two or three generations of Americans who have no idea what freedom is worth and the cost that it takes to keep it. They live in a comfortable pampered country. And even the COVID response didn't wake most of them up. My visceral reaction every time I see someone wearing a mask is to slap the shit out of them. My favorite of course was watching people riding bicycles alone outside and driving in their cars alone and wearing those miserable face diapers.
Keep your foot on the pedal Alex.
I was kicked out of the workforce in 2021 for refusing the vaccine. When I’m asked when I retired, I answer that I didn’t; I was forced out of work by Joe Biden and his mandate. I was very angry for a long time. I’m still angry that this country was so full of easily manipulated people, but now my “retirement” is a story I happily share. And I say just like that: I was kicked out of the workforce.
And, great timing: from today's Steven Hayward Substack Midweek Notebook -
• You owe it to yourself to set aside 35 minutes of your time to take in “The Lockdown Skeptics,” a mini-documentary produced by Michael Pack (one of the few conservative documentarians around) and hosted by the Wall Street Journal. I have been saying since the very start that our entire Covid policy would turn out to be possibly the largest single public policy error of the last 100 years (the New Deal begs to differ, I know), or at the very least certainly the largest public health policy blunder ever. But it was revealing of the way in which the government lies to us, suppresses honest dissent, and embraces compulsion on behalf of ancillary goals (like “anti-racism,” supposedly because “racism” is a “public health crisis”). Few things the government has ever done has so fully revealed its mendacious character. And this film reminds us why we should remain in a white hot rage about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O87Et-w3vdg
Thanks for the link! I know Steven well. Didn't know he had a substance, will follow now!
Sorry I missed the chat. I was naive at first. I actually believed the vaccine would work. Over time, it became obvious that it didn’t. My wife and I are retired. We enjoyed traveling. To do that, one needed the “booster.” We got it so we could travel. I regret doing it.
Thank you for continuing to fight the fight on this.
Got the initial dose plus first booster for travel purposes as well as work mandate. But I sometimes wonder if I’m the only one at my office who hasn’t had any boosters since.
Same here. Work mandated the first round for everyone. I avoided going into the office to avoid having to get any boosters. They eventually softened the requirements. I know for a fact that some coworkers and their young children are still getting boosters this year. Blows my mind, makes me sick to my stomach. I hate that I took the first round but at the time really didn’t see a way out of it. Will fight it like crazy next time.
Yep many rush out to get each one as soon as it’s out, for themselves and their kids. For their sakes, I hope the hype on both sides is overblown.
They will never apologize. Never. Why would they? As far as they can tell, they survived the Spanish Flu of 1918 through sheer, heroic virtue alone. What incentive is there to ditch that narrative and make themselves the villains? Nope. Not one person has ever apologized to me. Just the opposite.
I couldn't join today, but I'd be interested in an in-person event. (I don't like online meetings.) I'm no longer angry or expecting any dawning of the light. One close friend apologized last year for not being there during those years (unvaxxed, he had a deep depression), but that's it. Many friends and friends of friends have had weird health issues or died. I've said what I could to people. Some were grateful. Others stared at me, sobered. I'm back to talking to everyone and am very engaged again socially. Also I'm meeting more likeminded people lately, which is nice. But I know I can only truly count on one of my sisters. I'm not jaded, just a bit sad, and the rosy glasses are in a drawer.
Here in Australia there were unscrupulous people who were charging $4000 Australian per shot which went down the drain not into your arm and then doing the paperwork so you could keep your job and not be jabbed. I know of policeman, firemen and pilots who did it. Thats what we were pushed into. A shameful time in history.
In the 6/10/26 "chat" which I couldn't attend, you told a mental health provider you'd like to know more about how mandate fever afflicted that profession. I can tell you that my license would have been in danger had I spoken up with clients in a lockdown state (fortunately I'm licensed in a few states, which allowed me to work more freely). Even now, *most* providers shun me for being anti-Covid vax. *Most* licensing bureaus would disapprove (wherever that might go). >>>> Imagine how clients feel when there's no "safe space" - even your therapist won't validate your concerns?!? Thank God for writers like you, brave doctors and the FLCCC (now IMA). But who's helping people who lacked knowledge of these resources? Who's helping family members coping with vax-caused afflictions and deaths? Who's validating the righteous anger, the grief, the need for advocacy, now? It's not like sympatico providers can advertise, safely, professionally speaking. PFFFT.
I have no idea how chat things work so I wasn’t even attempting to sign up or sign in, but I value the importance of the connection and feeling heard and validated and sharing feelings as I’ve mentioned in another comment after your essay. It’s necessary and golden.
What I really came here to say was as somebody in a very small Island Community who was quite clear and vocal about not needing nor wanting to take an experimental shot that I did not need as a healthy 53 year old woman then, I have never had one person say they were sorry or they were wrong or they had subsequently heard more information along the lines of what I was trying to explain regarding my beliefs and choices. What I have heard four times now, is people reinventing their history or their memory of why they took jabs despite what they were saying quite clearly and strongly to me at the time! The first time it happened it was gobsmacking but fortunately a like-minded friend was in the gathering with me so we were able to discuss it after they left and had the same memory of the qualifications at the time. And then it happened again and then again! I suspect others will probably have had the same experience of people who were sneering or shunning you or pretending to believe in your choice later saying well they didn’t want to take it but they had to et cetera when they were quite clear that they felt everyone should be taking it at the time. Grrrrrr! My absolute favourite quote of all time came from a woman who is quite a formidable presence in our community, “well thanks for letting us know Sam because we need to know who the unvaccinated are“. And so it went. An unforgettable four years. The cherry on the top when the first few people on the island dropped dead of heart attacks those of us unvaccinated were not allowed to attend the funerals/celebrations. Of course there’s no proof et cetera, but oh the irony.
Thank you for providing this space for us, Alex.
As a coach of high school rowing in 2020, the effects and impact on my athletes was devastating. Bright happy athletes were denied their school, their friends and their sport. Seniors missed graduations. We could go on and on, but the cohort of Zoomers, isn’t going to forget or forgive. There is hope in their resilience, in their well earned skepticism. Where and how they chose to make decisions going forward with tell us all a lot. My fervent hope is that they kick the Boomers to the curb, (me included) that they kick their X’er parents right in the ass, for being sheep and cowards, and that they weed out the weak Y’ers, and those two generations go forward with stiffened resolve to never let this happen again. We can all do something which is encourage the various powers in control of the flight deck to run these creeps and cretin’s who foisted the whole lie and performance theatre upon the USA, and the world into prison. Though jail seems to good for them, 3 hots and a cot are a gift, but it would be a start. If another pandemic is brought forward it will divide the Nation, and as we learn from the ancient philosophers once the dialectic starts no one knows where it will end. So it would be best to avoid finding out.
Traumatized people find comfort in sharing their stories. Unfortunately most of us did not get an apology for how we were treated and could give two fucks about those that chose "the state" over their loved ones.